The Stack: Judgment Day, Politics, and the Truth About Heaven and Hell
A congressional hearing turned explosive when Rep. LaMonica McIver confronted Acting ICE Director Todd Lyons with a stunning accusation: “How will Judgment Day work for you with so much blood on your hands?” The exchange, sparked by two controversial Minneapolis ICE incidents, quickly shifted from policy oversight to personal condemnation.
In today’s Toddcast, Todd separates political theater from legal reality. Were the shootings murder, as insinuated? Or were they chaotic law enforcement encounters requiring split-second decisions? Todd walks through the facts, the definition of murder, and the danger of reckless rhetoric in Congress.
But the bigger issue is theological. If we’re going to talk about Judgment Day, what actually determines someone’s eternal destiny? Is it a job title? A single event? Or something much deeper? Todd explains the biblical foundation of sin, justice, grace, and salvation—and why the only question that ultimately matters is who paid your sin debt.
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📝 Transcript: Judgment Day, Politics, and the Truth About Heaven and Hell
The Todd Huff Show – February 12, 2026
Todd Huff: Welcome, my friends, to today's. Todd Cassidy is a pleasure to be here with you today. I want to talk with you about something that happened in a congressional hearing that involved Representative LaMonica. MacGyver, who, by the way, you might recall, she's the one, a representative from the state of New Jersey who allegedly assaulted an ICE officer some time ago. But she's she had some things to say recently to Acting ICE Director Todd Lyons at a House hearing. I think the hearing was on Tuesday, and I want to talk about that today because it illuminates a couple of important issues that I want to share with you and explore with you. And I appreciate you joining us here today. So that's where we're headed, my friends. And we will get there in due course over the, well, the duration of the program today.
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Todd Huff: All right, so here's where I want to go today. I've laid it out at the top. Representative LaMonica McIver, she's questioning Acting ICE Director Todd Lyons at a hearing earlier this week. She's asking him some, you know, some questions. You know the routine here. You know the routine where they bring somebody in and they do some grandstanding. You've seen all that. You know how that works. You're down with, well, you may not be down with, but you're understanding. You've seen this, right? We talk about this. You see these things happening and so forth. But she has an exchange with him I'm sharing with you where I'm going to read a portion of an article at redstate.com. And there's actually more than more than that at this in this article.
Todd Huff: There is video, video that comes to us from, from X, about said Twitter, but formally known as Twitter. So she's at this hearing. She's questioning the Acting ICE director, Todd Lyons. And this turns into a, well, a theological debate here, my friends, that quickly kind of develops here. And I want to talk about this because I want to talk about this sort of thing as a tactic by people on the left. I want to talk about this because I think everyday American life, there's a lot of people that think like this. And this is a very important issue, let me tell you. She tells Todd Lyons, the Acting ICE director. Let's see here, she asks him in this exchange as you're going to love this. She says, do you think you're going to hell, Mr. Lyons? That's the question that she asks him. That's embedded here in this exchange. It's about a minute long. I want to play it. We're going to discuss it. Here we go. Representative McIver talking with Acting ICE Director Todd Lyons, and they have this particular exchange, starting with Representative McIver.
Representative McIver (Soundbite): Mr. Lyons, do you consider yourself a religious man?
Todd Lyons (Soundbite): Yes, ma'am.
Representative McIver (Soundbite): Oh, yes. Okay. Well, how do you think Judgment Day will work for you? Judgment? With so much blood on your hands?
Todd Lyons (Soundbite): What? I'm not going to entertain that question.
Representative McIver (Soundbite): Okay? Of course not. Do you think you're going to hell, Mr. Lyons?
Todd Lyons (Soundbite): I'm not going to.
Chairman Garbarino (Soundbite): Gentle lady will suspend. Gentle lady will suspend. Chairman. A gentle lady will suspend. As I said, the issues we're debating here are important ones that members feel deeply about. Thank you. While vigorous disagreement is part of the legislative process, members are reminded that we must adhere to established standards of decorum and debate.
Chairman Garbarino (Soundbite): The witnesses are here voluntarily. And I will continue to remind members that while oversight is important, aggressively attacking those witnesses personally is inappropriate and not in keeping with the traditions of our committee.
Representative McIver (Soundbite): Mr. Chairman, I'm just asking a question. You all, you guys are always talking about religion here in the Bible. I mean, it's okay for me to ask a question, right? But let me continue on. I got your notes. All right.
Todd Huff: The gentle lady neighbors. Got it. Let me get back to my question to Mr. Chairman. Thank you. I appreciate she continues her questioning. But again, the questions are, she comes in hot here. She says, Mr. Lyons, do you consider yourself a religious man? Yes, ma'am, he replies. Oh, yes, she says very dramatically. Okay, well, how do you think Judgment Day will work for you with so much blood on your hands? Acting ICE Director Todd Lyons says, I'm not going to entertain that. Oh, okay. Of course not. Do you think you're going to hell, Mr. Lyons? That's her question. This is happening in the halls of our Congress, my friends. I'm not going to entertain that, he responds. Of course not. How many government then you hear she's interrupted by the chair. Representative Garbarino interjects and basically in Congress speak gently, well, kind of puts the smackdown on her in a Congress statesmanlike way.
Todd Huff: The gentle lady will suspend. She'll suspend. Basically, she's going to stop talking. You're going to shut up, Miss McIver. That's how you say that in government speak. And he says, listen, we're debating issues here that are important and that members of both sides of the aisle feel very strongly about. And we can have vigorous disagreement here. It's part of the legislative process. But members, that's you, Ms. McIver, are reminded. Hey, may I tell you, remind you that you're violating the rules here? The standards of decorum, the standards of debate. These witnesses don't have to be here. And I will continue to remind members, I'm speaking to you here, Ms. McIver, that oversight is certainly an important role of Congress. Attacking the witnesses aggressively and attacking them personally is not appropriate. This is not how we do this. This is not fit in with the traditions of the committee and so forth. Ms. McIver responds, I'm just asking a question. I'm just asking.
Todd Huff: As though the real question is, again, as most things do, they remind me of either The Office or Seinfeld. And for those of you who are Office fans, you'll know that Michael Gary Scott had an eternal struggle with Toby Flenderson, the HR director for most of Michael's tenure at Dunder Mifflin in Scranton, Pennsylvania. And Toby announced his retirement. He was going to retire and go to, I think it was Costa Rica, somewhere in Central America. And Michael, Michael loved it. And Michael actually did the exit interview with Toby. And when he sits down with Toby, he didn't know that other people were going to be joining that meeting. But Michael had a list of questions for Toby. And the first question was something like, who do you think you are? Who do you think you are? That was one of Michael's questions. And of course, he tried to read it in such a way that the new HR director, Holly Flax, who ended up being Michael's wife, and Pam Beasley weren't accounting for their presence in that room.
Todd Huff: And so he tried to tone it down. I think the first question was, who do you think you are and what gives you the right? That's how that started. He also got him a gift, going away present. That was a big rock. I'm talking a big rock. And he put a sticky note on it that said, suck on this. That was the gift he gave to Toby. That's the feel of this exchange here. She says, I'm just asking a question. And, oh, you guys are always talking about the Bible and religion here. I mean, shouldn't I be able to ask a question about that? Well, I'm glad you did, Miss McIver, because you've actually done us a favor here by giving us something to talk about here today because of your intentional, inflammatory rhetoric. This is not, these are not genuine questions. This is, again, she's looking for the sound bite. She's looking probably to go fundraise. She's clearly drawn the battle lines in the sand against ICE.
Todd Huff: That's why I said off the top she's one who has been alleged to have assaulted ICE officers. There's video evidence of this happening at a facility in, I think it was in her state of New Jersey. It could have been in D.C., but I'm pretty sure it was in New Jersey some time ago. So she's drawn the battle lines here. She thinks or she wants the people in her district to think that she's on the right side of this, the moral side of this argument. And she thinks, she's insinuating that Mr. Lyons is going to hell because he's working for ICE. Just let that sink in for just a moment. Now, two things I want to get to here first. First question is, well, the first thing I want to get to is her allegation that there is, quote, blood on the hands of Acting ICE Director Todd Lyons. And so that's the starting point.
Todd Huff: So when you say that there's blood on someone's hands, that implies direct personal culpability in a matter in particular. In this case, as his being the director, the acting director of ICE, in murder. She's implying that he is guilty of murder. Now, why is she doing that? We've talked about these two cases. Two cases that happened in Minneapolis. The first is Renée Good, 37-year-old mother of three. She was shot and killed by an ICE agent in Minneapolis during an immigration enforcement operation in the city. I think it was South Minneapolis. The operation was on January 7. We've seen the video. We've seen multiple videos. In fact, we've seen body cam footage from the officer involved in the shooting where you can clearly see Renée Good hit him with the front end of her car. And he fired the weapon after she struck him with a vehicle.
Todd Huff: By the way, we talked about this, too. There are many, many, numerous examples of these, quote unquote, protesters. These aren't protesters. When you start using your vehicle as a tool to impede ICE operations and if you use it to physically threaten harm, hit an officer, you've now entered into a criminal act. You're no longer a peaceful protester. And so that's what she did. It's awful that she was shot and killed. But to pretend that that was murder is a far cry from reality. You can ask questions about the lawful use of force standards. You can ask, you should. It's fair to question what might have been happening, why he chose to do it. But to watch the video evidence and to be fair minded, you cannot escape the reality that Renée Good put herself in that position and that she put the officer in a very, very difficult position.
Todd Huff: That he clearly, clearly could have reasonably felt that his life was in danger as he was being struck with a fair amount of force with the front end of a vehicle. I don't mean to imply that he was, you know, under the car or anything like that, but he was hit hard enough. Remember, this caused internal bleeding. He had internal bleeding from being hit by the car. He also had an encounter last summer where he was dragged by a car. You remember this? I shared this on the program, too. He had to go to the hospital and had stitches and all sorts of things done because he was dragged by a car when he was again trying to apprehend someone during an operation. So to say, where's the blood? Explain to me where the blood on the hands of the acting director of ICE for that encounter. That's one of two. I'll go through the second one here in just a moment.
Todd Huff: There's another incident. Another 37-year-old in Minneapolis who was shot and killed by federal immigration agents. His name was Alex Pretti. He's an ICU nurse working at a Veterans Affairs hospital, shot and killed in Minneapolis by agents on January 24, 2026. Again, there's video. There's evidence. There's witnesses. He was physically getting into altercations with ICE Border Patrol agents, and during the scuffle, there was a time that he was carrying a weapon. The videos and the eyewitnesses say he was not brandishing the weapon at the time when he was wrestled to the ground and fatally shot. But he had a weapon. He was clearly breaking the law. ICE was justified in, or the agents were justified in physically restraining him and arresting him. During that time, they saw that he had a gun in his waistband. And for whatever reason, someone lost track of the gun. They thought that he had it or maybe had been reaching for it, and that's when they fired. Again, you can have questions about was that really, I'm very cautious about this because I'm not the one out there. I'm not the one who has to make those split-second decisions. And you may think that example is maybe they shouldn't have made those decisions. We all wish that they didn't. I bet the officers wish that they could have avoided having to make that decision. They don't want to do this sort of stuff. But that, at the time, seemed to be what they thought they needed to do because they thought that they were at risk.
Todd Huff: There's a weapon. This guy's fighting us. Where did the weapon go? Does he have it? Right? So again, you can question how that plays out, the use of force and how that should have been applied there, what have you. You can ask questions, but to say that that's an example of murder is a far cry. Remember what murder is. The unjustified taking of a human life. That's what murder is. Killing is not all killing is murder. All murder involves the killing of a person. But you can kill a person and be justified, or at least understand. Justified doesn't mean necessarily that that was the only option. It just meant, listen, it got so bad that it's reasonable to think that this person was in fear of their life, and so they made that decision. Once you get the facts, you may realize, oh, his life wasn't really at risk. But did they know that at the time?
Todd Huff: Right? It's chaotic. This person has a history. Alex Pretti. We've seen videos of him kicking ICE vehicle, knocking a taillight out of the back of the vehicle being driven by agents and so forth. They may have known him. They may have seen him be violent. I don't know. But to say that this murder is wild, wild talk. It may be a bad decision and maybe something that someone has to be held accountable for. Listen, I'm not suggesting it is. I'm just saying you go through your process, you review what happened, and you say the person maybe should, or maybe they were justified, maybe they weren't. But even if they weren't, this is not murder. This is, it's just crazy. Crazy talk. And if it's not murder, there's no blood on anybody's hands. There's no blood on the agent's hands if this is not murder.
Todd Huff: And it wasn't murder. You can say that maybe this, and let's not even reference this case, but maybe an agent in another case makes a mistake that clearly violates protocol. Though we can certainly see why he may have made the choice, that still isn't murder. And if there's no murder, there's no blood on anybody's hands. But that's what Representative McIver here wants people watching her little silly performance at the congressional hearing to think. Now it's not just that. It's not just that she's accusing him of being a murderer or responsible for murder, which, of course, is bad enough. Now she's saying you have to stand before God. Do you believe in God? Do you believe in a heaven and hell? Are you going to go to hell? You're a murderer. That's what she's saying to a person testifying during a committee hearing.
Todd Huff: And what she's referencing, again, are cases that I've just gone through. We talked about them here. You've read about them elsewhere, whatever. That is what's going on here. So I want to talk about that, get into the other part of this discussion on the other side of the break, because I think that this part of the conversation is very, very important for people to understand. In fact, I would dare say the single most important, I know this is a big statement, but it's the single most important thing for, I think, any human being to understand is the correct way of viewing what she's insinuating. She's got it butchered up. But she's talking about what sends somebody to hell. And I want to clear up the air and go through what the Bible has to say about that, and I'll do that, my friends, on the other side of the break.
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Todd Huff: Welcome back, my friends. So we're going through some comments that Representative McIver made during a hearing on Tuesday earlier this week. Her name is LaMonica McIver. She's a Democrat representative. She represents the 10th district in New Jersey. She's been charged with assaulting ICE agents while trying to storm, by the way, a federal agency. I referenced that. This is at redstate.com. This will be in today's email that we send out summarizing the show, bringing the receipts to what we talked about, providing a little summary of some of the things we discussed and then some things that I don't have time to get to on the show. We talk about those things in the inner circle, and you can be a member of that. It is totally free. Just go sign up at toddhuffshow.com. But this is the stage. She's at a hearing. She's speaking. She's questioning Acting ICE Director Todd Lyons, and she asks him, how do you think Judgment Day will work for you with so much blood on your hands? We talked about the blood on your hands portion of that comment. But she's basically, again, accusing him of being a murderer.
Todd Huff: Of leading an organization that is intentionally taking the lives of people on the streets of America. Of being the leader of an organization, ICE, that she insinuates is violating the constitutional rights of Americans. Of course, that's not at all what's happening. But nonetheless, that's the argument. And she says there's going, you're going to have to answer this. She says, do you consider yourself a religious man? She starts by saying, do you consider yourself a religious man? He says yes. How do you think Judgment Day will work for you with so much blood on your hands? And then she says after he says, I'm not going to entertain that question, oh, of course, she says, of course not. Do you think you're going to hell, Mr. Lyons? Wow. I mean, heated really quickly. Escalated very quickly. And then, of course, Ms. McIver, when she's scolded by the chairman of the committee, Congressman Garbarino, she says, listen, I'm just asking a question.
Todd Huff: You guys on the right, Republicans, conservatives, you're always talking about religion here in the Bible. And I thought it was okay for me to ask a question connecting those dots. Well, I'm actually glad you did ask it. You look like a fool up there. But these questions that she's getting at, she's doing it, of course, because she's a Democrat, because she's looking for a theatrical opportunity to probably fundraise, to garner support for whatever she's going to be facing if she faces anything regarding her alleged past behavior concerning ICE and the ICE facility and all that. And so she's, again, it's a midterm election year. She's trying to stir the pot. She's trying to make this into something it's clearly not. But this is, again, their M.O., their modus operandi. This is the way that they're going to behave. We know that. But what she's talking about here is a question that most people have. Not the inflammatory, intentionally inflammatory rhetoric that she's using to try to embarrass somebody in public or to mock them or to whatever, ridicule their faith.
Todd Huff: But people have this question. What are you going to do? How are you going to handle the things that you've done or that you've been alleged to have done on Judgment Day? And she asks here, do you think you're going to hell? And this is something I remember as a young man. I was not raised in church. But this sort of thing terrified me, right? The concept of hell and what that was and just the suffering, the weeping, the gnashing of teeth. Just that whole concept was terrifying to me as a young man. And of course, nobody wants the concept of going to hell. So that question is one that people ask themselves because, listen, deep down, my friends, I don't believe in atheists. I don't. I know some of you might be atheists. You know what I found with atheists? I found within, and I sincerely mean this, smart people. There's different types of atheists. We've interviewed a type of atheist here on the program. Her name was Lauren. She is the head of the Republican Atheist.
Todd Huff: And she and I can agree on a lot of things when it comes to politics. But I couldn't disagree more with her regarding her position on the existence of God and all that. In fact, we interviewed her around Christmas time. If you want to listen to that episode, it was actually pretty sad to me. She said, I just don't care. I don't care if it doesn't matter to me. I don't think about it. Which is wild, because I'm not saying she's lying. I'm just saying maybe she's just avoiding how she really feels about it. Maybe she's lying to herself. I don't know. It doesn't compute for me. The Bible makes it clear that God has made His existence known to everybody. And how quickly someone who's an atheist, even Lauren, who, again, I respectfully, I'm not trying to, I really enjoyed our conversation. I appreciate her having it with me. But how quickly she went from being an atheist, and I'm telling you, if you listen to the interview, you know exactly what I'm talking about, and the first couple of minutes, probably the first question that I asked about this, she conceded that she was effectively an agnostic.
Todd Huff: And really quickly, I don't want to get into that, but just to make it clear, an atheist, the word atheist means a means without. So when you see a before a word, when you look at the etymology here, the A means without. Theist means God. So without God. So there is no God. So we have a universe without God. That's what an atheist believes. Agnostic, the A means without. And then gnostic, the Gnostic part of that, I know we say it differently, you say agnostic, but the word is gnostic when you just talk about it. It just means knowledge. So agnostic means without knowledge. So that is a person who says, we don't know. They might suspect. They might say, I don't think there is a God, but there's a difference, right? There's a difference between definitively knowing, claiming to know that God doesn't exist. That's an atheist. I say those people don't exist because God has made it known in the hearts of man and through His creation. The idea that this stuff happened by chance is so absurd to me.
Todd Huff: We have a world today that talks about being highly scientific and accusing Republicans and conservatives oftentimes for not believing in or following the science. But the reality is you can't get any further from science with this. You just can't. Because science is the study of the physical world. It's really following cause and effect. And to say that the origin of everything that we have really had no cause, if you say it's left up to chance, you say there's no cause. That's really the myth here. R.C. Sproul, who was a wonderful thinker and Christian apologist, wrote a book called The Myth of Chance. If you've not read that, I'd encourage you to check that book out. But anyway, chance isn't an entity. Chance isn't something that has power. Chance is just saying left just to the random occurrences, if you will. If you think about things like that, and I don't necessarily think of the world like that, but just what's the chance, the odds, the statistics of something happening?
Todd Huff: If you ran an experiment and something happened 100,000 times in an experiment, and you say, how many times did this particular outcome happen? You could run the experiments all day, and you would never get creation from nothing. You would never get order from disorder. It's wild thinking to me. But anyway, I'm going to get bogged down here. I want to stay on point here to talk about these comments. But we all know. We all know that there's a God deep down in our quiet moments. I remember as a five-year-old little boy on the swing set looking up at the sky and just knowing. I wasn't raised in church. I didn't have these things pounded into me. But I just knew. Not because I was special. We all do that. Somebody made this. My goodness, to suggest otherwise, you talk about just crazy. It just is. I'm sorry. I don't mean to be disrespectful, but that's messed up. That doesn't make any sense.
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Todd Huff: Okay, so let's talk about this briefly in the time we have available and get to as much of this as I can. The biblical viewpoint of standing before God and giving an account. The Bible tells us that all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God and that the wages of those sins, the wages of our sins, so when you go and you work a day's wages or week's wages, you get paid. It's what you're entitled to. It's the justified outcome of what you did. You go and you work for an agreed-upon wage and you get paid at the end of the week, $20 an hour for 40 hours a week. What is that? $800 for the week? If you get paid weekly, they give you the money. Of course, they take out the taxes and everything else. But you get your wages, right? That's what you've earned. If and when we sin, and by the way, we all sin, the Bible makes that clear as well. When we sin, what we earn, the payment for our sins is death. Physical and spiritual.
Todd Huff: So that is obviously the concept of hell comes in. That's the physical death here. The spiritual death would be to basically live in a place where God isn't, to be cast outside the presence of a loving God. And that's the environment created. That's what it looks like where there is no God. And that's terrifying. So the story of the Bible is that the God of the universe came to humanity. He first came, well, there's a lot of stories in the Bible, but He came to a man named Abram, Abraham eventually. And He told Abraham, I'm going to make you a father of many nations. You're going to have as many people in your family as there are stars in the sky, sands on the seashore. Which was a very God way of doing things because Abram was 100 years old before he even had his first child, well, his first child with his wife, Sarah, which is who the blessing went through. The blessing went through Isaac, not Ishmael. That's a whole other discussion for a different day.
Todd Huff: But that God began the process. We had sinned and broken the relationship with Him. He wanted to reestablish that. So He came to Abram and made a blessing. And Abram, Isaac, Jacob, Joseph, Moses, we got the whole story of the Bible. And as the people, as God prepared His people, as He took them out of slavery in Egypt, and there's a lot of things I'm skipping over here, but as He took His people out of slavery in Egypt and took them through the wilderness on their journey to the Promised Land, Israel. He instituted a process whereby their sins could be atoned for. And what they would do, again, there's a lot to this. I'm giving you the CliffsNotes version. They would effectively, through a priest who had certain requirements to remain pure and all these sorts of things, it's in the Bible in the Old Testament, they would have a sacrifice where they would put their sins symbolically on an animal and then offer that animal as a sacrifice, a sacrificial lamb, in fact.
Todd Huff: And so fast forward. Fast forward to the time of Jesus. The entire Old Testament talked about the coming of a Messiah, the Christ, the Son of Man, the Son of God, who came to redeem humanity for their sins. And so Jesus ultimately became the perfect substitution for that lamb. He was the Lamb of God. Behold the Lamb of God who takes away the sins of the world. And so He became the permanent sacrifice. The permanent sacrifice for those of us who cast our sins onto Christ and accept His Lordship and accept, repent from our ways and say His ways are right, my ways are wrong, I've sinned. And God, basically, God, Yahweh, basically looks at Jesus as the one who's paying the penalty for our sins for those of us who have called upon Jesus to do that, who have accepted His payment for that. He's already paid, by the way. He's paid the sin debt for every person listening to my voice. He's paid it.
Todd Huff: The question is whether or not you're going to accept it or whether or not you're going to demand that you pay for it yourself. It's like when the check, and people fight. Oh, I'm going to pay for it. I'm not letting you pay for my dinner. Jesus has paid. Jesus has paid for your sin debt, paid for mine. The question is, who's going to accept it? Who's going to accept His Lordship, His deity, His forgiveness? Who's going to seek to become, right, we're going to take up our cross daily and follow Him? This is a process. And so when the Acting Director and every one of us, by the way, who stand before God on Judgment Day, the answer isn't did you work for ICE or not whether you get into heaven, or even was there blood on your hands? The question is who paid for your sins? Whose payment did you accept? That's the only question. Why are you here? I'm here because the man on the cross said I could come. So, my friends, that's how you get into heaven. Not this messed up theology. I gotta go. SDG.
