The Stack: Micah Beckwith on Redistricting and Indiana’s Voice in Washington

PoliticsCurrent Events
Written By Todd Huff

In this episode of The Todd Huff Show, Todd sits down with Indiana Lt. Governor Micah Beckwith for a candid conversation about redistricting, conservative values, and the direction of state and national politics.

Beckwith explains why he and Governor Mike Braun are pushing for a special legislative session to redraw congressional maps—arguing that Indiana’s voice in Washington has been diluted while blue states have gained from gerrymandered districts. He discusses the political and spiritual dimensions of the fight, how modern Democrats have shifted from their blue-dog roots, and what fair representation should look like in a post-17th Amendment America.

The discussion moves beyond state borders, connecting Indiana’s debate to similar moves in Missouri, Texas, and North Carolina. Beckwith also shares his views on faith in government, how conservatives can stay principled amid political pressure, and why understanding the “times we live in” matters more than ever.

Todd closes the episode, encouraging listeners to stay engaged, contact their state senators, and follow the special session as it unfolds.

Stay connected with The Todd Huff Show:

  • Newsletter: Sign up for free The Inner Circle newsletter

  • Email: todd@toddhuffshow.com

  • Text: 317-210-2830

🎧 Listen to Today’s Episode

📝 Transcript: Micah Beckwith on Redistricting and Indiana’s Voice in Washington

The Todd Huff Show – October 27, 2025

Host: Todd Huff
Special Guest: Micah Beckwith, Indiana Lt. Governor

Disclaimer: Due to minor technical issues, the first minute of today’s broadcast was not fully captured in the transcript. The remainder of the program is presented here in its entirety.

Todd Huff: … the nation of Charlie Kirk, and I've realized that we have to get the message out, in front of these people more aggressively, wherever they are. And so I think interviews are a way to do that. And I've got a special guest here that I'll bring on here in just a moment. He's a friend of mine for a good while. He's now the lieutenant governor of the state of Indiana, Micah Beckwith, will be on here in just a moment.

Todd Huff (Sponsor): But my friends, before I do that, you know that one of the biggest challenges we have as conservatives like us is finding ways to ensure our values align with everything that we do—including the ways that we invest. That's why I love what the team at Four Eight Financial is doing. They specialize in biblically responsible investing. That means they screen out companies that do not align with your faith and your values, so we're not funding things that go completely against what we believe in.

Todd Huff (Sponsor): Plus, they do the heavy lifting for us, helping us align our investments with our purpose and our goals. The best part—they do the work to help you find out if your current investments reflect your values. All you have to do is take the assessment. It's quick, it's painless, it's simple. I did it, you can too: 48financial.com/todd.

Todd Huff (Sponsor): Four Eight Financial—because our money should work for our values.

Todd Huff: Friends, I want to get right to it today. I'm going to bring on here in a moment my friend Micah Beckwith, lieutenant governor of the state of Indiana. Micah, it's a pleasure to have you on the program today. How are you, sir?

Micah Beckwith: Thanks, Todd. I'm doing really well, and thanks for having me on the show. You're doing great work and I really appreciate it.

Todd Huff: Well, I appreciate that. And Micah, just so those of you listening know, Micah and I met several years ago through John Crane—who’s a guest host on this program, former state senator here, who's doing some great work as well. We met several years ago; Micah has even been a guest host on this program.

Todd Huff: Micah, I'm just curious off the top here—how do you compare guest hosting on this program to being lieutenant governor?

Micah Beckwith: Your job is way more fun, man. When I grow up, I definitely want to be you someday. That's my dream job. But no, it's good—I enjoy being lieutenant governor too.

Micah Beckwith: It really is, in all seriousness, an honor. I’ve traveled the state already, just crisscrossing Indiana, meeting so many amazing people. It gives you a lot of hope when you get outside of the Indianapolis bubble and you actually get to see real Hoosiers in real, everyday jobs.

Micah Beckwith: They're faith, family, and freedom-focused people. I love it. And I'm heading down to Seymour, Indiana right now. I'm in the car and we're going down to Foss Tech. I think they manufacture ammo and guns and all kinds of cool stuff like that. I'm excited to learn more about their job and their business.

Micah Beckwith: So it's just cool opportunities that I would never otherwise have had. And I appreciate that.

Todd Huff: Appreciate you sharing that. And what you said kind of resonates with me as we've traveled the country on our Truth Tour. That's one of the things that hit me as well—you get inside of these bubbles when you talk about politics or you're in the state capitol, or in your situation, the inner operations of government.

Todd Huff: But you step outside and realize there's a whole lot of people with a whole lot of sense and hard work that make this country possible. So I commend you for going around the state and meeting those folks and hearing from them.

Todd Huff: So let's talk about what's happening here now. We have listeners all over the country, and I always make sure they know I'm not here just to talk about what's happening in Indiana. But what's happening in Indiana is actually happening in a lot of places—or could be happening in a lot of places.

Todd Huff: So let's talk about redistricting here in the state of Indiana. It sounds like, if I’m hearing things correctly, Mike Braun is about to make an announcement where there's going to be a special session where redistricting will be considered in the legislature. Is that correct, Micah?

Micah Beckwith: Yes. And the governor has been an advocate for redistricting. He's obviously a great ally of President Trump—as am I—and we love what President Trump is doing. He's taught the Republican Party how to fight again. I'm very grateful for President Trump’s leadership in this.

Micah Beckwith: What President Trump is looking at, he's looking pragmatically. The Democrats have screwed us Republicans for many years by gerrymandering and padding their numbers—by counting illegal immigrants and aliens, getting more congressional representation. And so the President, rightfully so, called it out.

Micah Beckwith: He said, you guys are cheating in blue states while red states like ours, we like to live above reproach and play by the rules as written—and we’re getting screwed. The Democrats are going to the bank laughing all the way there.

Micah Beckwith: And our representation in states like Indiana—we have a weaker voice in Washington with our Republican reps because of states like California, Illinois, the New England states. They've watered down our voice as a state in Washington.

Micah Beckwith: So this is all about our states’ rights in Washington. That's what I keep saying. After the 17th Amendment—which was one of the worst amendments, probably the second worst ever, probably after the 16th—we lost the ability to have state representation through the U.S. Senate.

Micah Beckwith: The legislature used to pick the U.S. Senator, and that was how states would be represented. Then we turned it into just another U.S. House—just a lesser house with fewer members. That was terrible.

Micah Beckwith: And so now, the only way states have a voice in Washington is through the congressional maps. When other states cheat, it hurts states like Indiana. So President Trump, Governor Braun, myself—we’ve all been calling for this for a long time.

Micah Beckwith: The Indiana House is good. I think we've got the votes there. The problem is a few Republican senators who just don't see it. They still live in the 1980s and 1990s. They think the game is Ronald Reagan's Republican Party versus Tip O'Neill's Democrat Party.

Micah Beckwith: I'm sorry—that's not the world we live in. The Democrats are Marxists now. They're radicals. It is not Tip O'Neill's Democrat Party anymore. We're dealing with a radicalized, crazy, Marxist Democrat Party. And the Republicans have to wake up to that.

Todd Huff: I'm with Micah Beckwith, Indiana's lieutenant governor. He's on the road, on his way to Seymour, to a meeting there. So if he cuts out on occasion, it's because of the connection. We've got a good one right now, but it did cut out briefly there, Micah, for a moment.

Todd Huff: Let's talk—no, you're all good, you're all good. Really briefly here, let's talk about what you’ve said, because you made a couple of really interesting and good points.

Todd Huff: First, let's talk about what the modern Democrat Party has become. Because I was raised in a union Democrat home. But I would say that my family was, I don't know, Blue Dog Democrat, conservative Democrat, moderate Democrat—something like that.

Todd Huff: There is literally none of that in Washington, D.C. today. So when we elect people in the state of Indiana who are Democrats—even if they pretend to be moderate, as they often do to get votes—when they go to Washington, D.C., the people they elect to lead the party and the agenda they support are not the Democrats of John F. Kennedy’s party back in the 60s.

Todd Huff: These are radicals. Talk a little bit about that, Micah—what this fight is really about ideologically.

Micah Beckwith: Yeah, well, I've said for a long time that JFK's party was the party that fought against the communists. Now his party wants to be the communists.

Micah Beckwith: He would not be welcomed in his own party right now. People want to hold up JFK, Bobby Kennedy, or some of those Blue Dog, pro-American Democrats—the Tip O’Neills of the day. But that’s not the party anymore.

Micah Beckwith: To your point, Todd, it’s been radicalized. It’s absolutely an anti-American party now. And while there are still some good Democrats, in my opinion, that care for America, the majority of the party leadership—not just in Indiana but nationwide—they hate American values.

Micah Beckwith: They hate American exceptionalism. They think America is fundamentally racist, rooted in all kinds of evil. And they don’t believe in God. They made that clear—they kicked God out of their party platform back in 2012.

Micah Beckwith: They don’t want anything to do with the fundamental truths of the laws of nature and nature’s God that our founders talked about.

Micah Beckwith: You can’t have America without the values our founders enshrined—that there is a Creator, that He is the one who gives us our rights, and that the government is only there to secure those rights. The Democrats have moved so far away from that.

Micah Beckwith: What fellowship does light have with darkness? That’s really kind of where I’m at in all of this.

Micah Beckwith: Remember, Todd—the whole southern part of Indiana for years, up until just a decade ago, was hardcore Blue Dog Democrat. You couldn’t win a race if you were a Republican.

Micah Beckwith: And now look what’s happened. It’s completely flipped—not because the people have changed, but because the Democrat Party has gone off the cliff of stupid.

Micah Beckwith: They’re pushing transgenderism, boys in girls’ sports, mutilation of children’s bodies, abortion on demand, open borders, economic suicide policies—it’s absolutely absurd.

Micah Beckwith: And people in places like southern Indiana—Blue Dog Democrats—said, that’s a bridge too far. And as Reagan said, “I didn’t leave the Democrat Party. The Democrat Party left me.” That’s where we’re at today.

Todd Huff: It is. And so let's talk a minute—because I'll be honest, from my vantage point, when I first started hearing about redistricting, I had half a foot, maybe just a toe, in the old-school politics where I want to be fair and reasonable.

Todd Huff: But I also understand this is a political process. Redistricting is up to the state legislature—it is a political activity. If the voters don’t like what the legislature does, they can change the legislature.

Todd Huff: So this is a political exercise that’s 100% constitutional. And to your point earlier, the Democrats are fine doing it when it benefits them. But suddenly, when Republicans want to do it, they come out saying they’re against gerrymandering.

Todd Huff: They want a truce. It’s like they had Wilt Chamberlain on their basketball team, then fixed the rules to prevent Wilt from dominating—and once they got the benefit of that, they don’t want the Republicans to see it. So it’s definitely hypocritical.

Todd Huff: But I do want you to walk us through what has to happen next. So let’s say Governor Braun calls this special session—which sounds like he’s going to do today. What happens next?

Todd Huff: There’s opposition in the Senate, it sounds like. I mean, Rod Bray, state senator and Senate Pro Tem here—he’s my senator in my district—he’s saying they don’t have the votes. Is he still saying that? Walk me through what happens next. Is this going to be a tense fight?

Micah Beckwith: Oh, it’ll be a tense fight. Yeah, it’s going to be close in the Senate. I think we have the votes if people have to put their names on the board, right?

Micah Beckwith: I think right now, in closed-room meetings and private polling and whipping the vote, we don’t have the votes because everyone can say it privately. I think the majority of senators, probably on the Republican side, would rather not have to vote on this.

Micah Beckwith: So they’re trying to push the governor not to call the session. Well, that’s not going to happen—the governor’s going to call it, and rightfully so. When push comes to shove, I think we’ll get it through, but it’s going to have to go through committee.

Micah Beckwith: We’ll have to create our own maps—it’s not Washington drawing the lines. I was on the phone with a senator last night. He said, “I’m in for it, but only if the maps are good. I’m not voting for something I haven’t seen.”

Micah Beckwith: And I think that’s completely fair—very reasonable. Yeah, absolutely. You’ve got to see the maps, right? If it’s a crappy map, don’t vote for it. Be wise about it.

Micah Beckwith: But I do think they have to understand what’s happening here. Most senators who are against it don’t understand that this is a national conversation.

Micah Beckwith: Indiana’s voice has been warped and watered down in Washington. And if you care about Indiana’s voice, senators, then you need to stand up and kick back against states like Illinois, California, and those in New England.

Micah Beckwith: I think it’s pretty telling when AOC is running ads in California for redistricting and Hakeem Jeffries is going to Illinois campaigning for it. It’s rich when Indiana Democrats say, “We’re against this,” while their national leadership pushes it in blue states.

Micah Beckwith: And President Trump’s for it. I’m for it. I put out a tweet the other day: if AOC, Hakeem Jeffries, Donald Trump, and Micah Beckwith are all agreeing on something, this might be the most bipartisan moment in American history.

Todd Huff: Anyway, yeah, that’s where I stand. So—the best argument from people who are against this is what? That it’s not the way it’s typically done? That it’s a political axe to grind?

Todd Huff: What, as objectively as you can, is the hesitation or opposition to this? How would you characterize that as fairly as possible?

Micah Beckwith: Yeah, I think you’ve got to remember, we’ve got a lot of senators who are older, right? There’s one senator who’s been in office since I was eleven years old—Senator Jim Buck. Far too long, in my opinion, but that’s another issue.

Micah Beckwith: And they say things like, “Well, we’ve never done it this way. We don’t do this in the Senate. We’re the Senate. We are esteemed people. We are the high-class elite.”

Micah Beckwith: And I’m like, guys, learn to understand the times. What we need are people with the spirit of the sons of Issachar that the Bible talks about—people who could interpret the times and apply biblical wisdom to strategy.

Micah Beckwith: I feel like what happens in places like the Indiana Senate is these people live in the glory days of the 1990s when it was a little more peaceful because you didn’t have a radicalized Democrat Party.

Micah Beckwith: Back then, you had a Democrat Party that was a lot more pro-American, Blue Dog—they were union workers. They didn’t believe in the social nonsense, like boys in girls’ sports.

Micah Beckwith: But unfortunately, those days are over. And honestly, I’ve said too—I would be against redistricting if I could trust states like California, Illinois, and New England to play fair.

Micah Beckwith: People have asked me, “What’s the outcome of this if we do it, and then the Democrats do it harder, and then we come back and do it harder, and everyone just keeps one-upping each other?” That’s not good, right?

Micah Beckwith: I say, “Well, no, it’s not good. But here’s what it will do—it’ll force the Supreme Court to get involved and make it fair across the board.” Because the Supreme Court really hasn’t done its job, in my opinion, on this.

Micah Beckwith: I think the Supreme Court will have to come in and say, “Okay, all you states trying to one-up each other all the time with redistricting—here are the rules. Everybody’s going to play by these rules.”

Micah Beckwith: And that’s it. That’s what we need—fairness across the board.

Todd Huff: I hear your point. The problem is, we can all say when we see some of these gerrymandered districts—like there’s one in Illinois that literally connects as many cities as it can to remain blue, this real skinny line that jogs across the state.

Todd Huff: Indiana doesn’t really have that. I mean, if you look at Indiana’s districts, they’re not drawn like that. You can tell when something’s clearly gerrymandered, but the problem is—what’s a fair shape?

Todd Huff: I mean, these districts are supposed to be roughly proportional because each representative must represent about the same number of people. It just gets really difficult.

Todd Huff: It’s constitutionally the job of the state legislatures. I have a hard time even deciding what’s “fair,” other than to say I know when it’s clearly unfair when I look at it.

Todd Huff: I don’t know when that line becomes objectively fair, to your point. I think it’s a political process, and that the legislature needs to be held accountable to voters for what they’ve done—and I don’t know what else can be done.

Todd Huff: Maybe I’m wrong. You seem to think the Supreme Court can rule on what’s fair. What’s something you think could be added here that would make it objectively fairer?

Micah Beckwith: Great question. So what’s happening in Louisiana right now, with the Supreme Court case dealing with the Voting Rights Act—if the Supreme Court gets rid of that, which they should, it’ll help.

Micah Beckwith: It’s incredibly unfair to have complete districts drawn because of somebody’s skin color. That’s not fair, shouldn’t be there. If we get rid of that, it makes it a whole lot easier to draw fair districts that are literally based on population.

Micah Beckwith: That’s really what the census is—just tell me how many people are here. I don’t care what color they are, what they do for a living—just tell me the number.

Micah Beckwith: And, by the way, they have to be here legally. You’re not counting illegals. Illegals have no constitutional rights. I’ve said this before—they don’t get to just step foot on our soil and now claim all kinds of privileges because they broke into our country illegally.

Micah Beckwith: That’s not the founders’ intent. The Constitution does not apply to them. We have Geneva Convention laws, humanitarian laws—we abide by those because we want to be good humans and treat people with dignity.

Micah Beckwith: But you’re not coming here and, just because your feet are on the soil, suddenly get counted in the census or afforded privileges meant for citizens. Absolutely not.

Micah Beckwith: I think if you take those two things away—the Voting Rights Act as it stands, and the counting of illegals—then it becomes very easy to make all these districts fair, based on population.

Todd Huff: Yeah, we agree then. With Micah Beckwith here, lieutenant governor of the state of Indiana.

Todd Huff: Let’s talk really quickly—I don’t know if you’ve got more time; I’m getting near the end of this segment. If you can stick around maybe ten more minutes after the break, that’d be great.

Todd Huff: If not, that’s fine. Obviously, this leads to lots of other discussions. I want to paint a picture—I want you to help paint a picture of what Washington, D.C. will look like after the 2026 midterms if Democrats win this.

Todd Huff: Because it’s not going to be legislating—it’s going to be impeachments, investigations. It’ll be a complete sideshow. You talk about abdicating responsibility for actual governance and legislating—that’s what’s going to happen.

Todd Huff: I mean, paint that picture. I’ve got about 90 seconds before I have to get to break.

Micah Beckwith: It’ll be a complete clown show—dumpster fire. It’s going to be “Get Trump” on steroids.

Micah Beckwith: If you thought the first term, with impeachment after impeachment, was bad—they’re going to do it again. We all know it’s a witch hunt. President Trump has not done anything that rises to the level of impeachment, but they’ll try again.

Micah Beckwith: It’ll just be made-up scandal after made-up scandal if Democrats get back in control. I’m thankful we have Republican majorities—slim ones—in both chambers in Washington.

Micah Beckwith: It’s allowed us to keep our eye on the ball. We’ve got great foreign policy happening, great domestic policy happening. But if we lose the chambers, it’ll be a witch hunt on steroids—and we can’t afford that.

Micah Beckwith: A lot is hanging in the balance, for sure.

Todd Huff: A lot is hanging in the balance, for sure. And I’ll tell you what’s interesting to me—and I’ve shared this on this show—these conversations about redistricting and so forth happen on a regular basis.

Todd Huff: What’s different is Trump has made these things transparent. He’s basically said, “Hey, I’m calling up governors. We need these seats because we’re in one heck of a political fight. We’re in a fight for the survival of this constitutional republic.” A lot is at stake.

Todd Huff: I have to take a break, though. Micah Beckwith, lieutenant governor of Indiana, is on the phone with me. He’ll stick around. Micah, you can stick around next segment?

Micah Beckwith: Yeah, that’d be great.

Todd Huff: Awesome. Sit tight, my friends. You’re listening to Conservative, Not Bitter Talk. I’m your host, Todd Huff. Back in just a minute.

Todd Huff: Welcome back, my friends. On the phone here with lieutenant governor of the state of Indiana, Micah Beckwith.

Todd Huff (Sponsor): Before we get back to that conversation, friends, let’s be honest—when your financial world starts getting more complicated, you need more than one-size-fits-all advice. That’s where Full Suite Wealth shines the brightest.

Todd Huff (Sponsor): Their team specializes in working with families and individuals at your level, offering personalized guidance that goes far beyond the basics—from private equity and private credit to options strategies and coordinated legal planning.

Todd Huff (Sponsor): Full Suite Wealth helps you see the big picture and make confident decisions about—yes—your legacy, my friends. It’s all about having a dedicated team to guide you every step of the way so you can focus on what really matters: your family, your goals, your future.

Todd Huff (Sponsor): If you want real confidence in your financial life, check out fullsuitewealth.com. Jason and his team will take great care of you. Full Suite Wealth—build your legacy, secure your future.

Todd Huff: That being said, let’s get back to the phone here with Micah Beckwith, lieutenant governor of the great state of Indiana. Again, if you’re listening in a state that’s not Indiana, hang with us—because there’s a chance that this very thing is happening in your state.

Todd Huff: It’s happened in Texas. It’s happening in North Carolina. It’s happened in Missouri, California. I’ve seen Virginia, Colorado considering it as well. Those are blue states, but—Micah, during the break you told me that you got a notification.

Todd Huff: I’ll let you go ahead and share with our audience what that notification is.

Micah Beckwith: Yeah, thanks, Todd. The governor just called the special session. So it’s officially been called. And it’s going to be November 3.

Micah Beckwith: It’s coming up here—what is that, Monday? Yeah, a week from today. It’s going to be exciting. I was talking to my friend, the lieutenant governor who presides over the Senate out in Missouri—he told me they just did this.

Micah Beckwith: He said it was more contentious and hotter of a special session for them than even the abortion special session and debate a few years ago. So I think—buckle up. It’s going to be a battle. But I’m your huckleberry. I’m ready for it. Let’s go.

Todd Huff: You’ve run into—and we can briefly touch on that before we get back to redistricting—you’ve run into some very unhappy folks out in, I think, Terre Haute, Micah, where they were upset about the way you talked about the rights of people in this country illegally.

Todd Huff: What is that environment like, Micah? Do you feel like these people just want the sound bites and the fight to broadcast and to fundraise with? Or do you think there’s genuine confusion?

Todd Huff: Do they just want to take you down? Do they care? Where do you find that most of these folks who have these sorts of interactions with you land on that scale? Are they reasonable? Are they just trying to get a sound bite? Where do they land?

Micah Beckwith: Can I check all of the above there? Because I think you get all of it—it just depends. I think ultimately, if you’re going to boil it down, the fundamental problem is spiritual.

Micah Beckwith: It’s a spiritual blindness. These people are completely confused. It leads to mental illness—not that all of them are mentally ill people—but they are certainly confused by really poor reason and rationale.

Micah Beckwith: They don’t even understand—again, if there is no God, there is no good. Jesus said when the rich young ruler approached him and said, “Hey, good teacher, what shall I do to inherit heaven?” Jesus said, “Why do you call me good? There’s no one good but God.”

Micah Beckwith: And that’s a fundamental problem. And my friend Charlie Kirk—before he was killed—one of the things I loved when he would talk about this…

Micah Beckwith: …he said that we are a Christian government. We are absolutely 100% a Christian government. The problem is, we are increasingly becoming a non-Christian culture—and that’s the friction you’re seeing.

Micah Beckwith: So when I go to these town halls, when you’re trying to talk about Christian values that underpin our entire legal system and our entire protection of our God-given rights—and you have people who hate God—they fundamentally reject Him and everything He is.

Micah Beckwith: Well, yeah, they’re super confused. They get mad and say, “We don’t want your God. We don’t want religion anywhere.” I say, “Okay, fine. But what religion are you going to replace it with?” Because you can’t have a country that is religion-less.

Micah Beckwith: Every country is based on a religion. Every country has a god. In Mao’s communist China, he was god. In Stalin’s communist Russia, he was god. In the Kim dynasty over in North Korea, they are gods. So you have to have a god.

Micah Beckwith: So okay, America—pick. Who’s your god? Is it Donald Trump? Is it Micah Beckwith? Is it the collective? If you don’t want the God of heaven and earth, you’re going to have to replace Him with someone.

Micah Beckwith: And no one’s good enough to be God. And by the way, the collective isn’t even good enough to be God—because we see what happens in places like Nazi Germany when the collective says, “Hey, we think we should murder six million Jews.”

Micah Beckwith: The Jews had to be felled because the collective idol of their day, which was the people under Hitler, just went along with it. And so we don’t want any of that. It’s all wicked, it’s all evil.

Micah Beckwith: The only good that comes to a nation is when God is their God—the one true God. That’s why America is so unique—because we’ve said that from the very inception. Go all the way back to the Mayflower Compact; this land was dedicated to the glory of God and His ways.

Micah Beckwith: Anyway, all that to say—that’s usually what happens when I go into these town halls. I’m speaking from a “God is the author of truth” perspective. Some of these leftists come at me, they hate God, and then they just lose their minds.

Micah Beckwith: But I like it. I think it’s fun. It’s my hobby. I can’t golf in the wintertime, so I’ve got to do something.

Todd Huff: (laughing) It’s a great hobby—it’s a great hobby, yeah. It reminds me—I just put a quote in our daily newsletter that says, “It is impossible…”—this is George Washington—“…it is impossible to rightly govern a nation without God and the Bible.”

Micah Beckwith: Yeah, I love that quote. I use that often. That’s from the greatest American—our first president. And that’s such a powerful quote because people will say, “Oh, separation of church and state,” which is not found anywhere in our founding documents.

Micah Beckwith: You cannot find that phrase anywhere. I’ll say, “But you know what George Washington said? It’s impossible to rightly govern without God and the Bible.”

Micah Beckwith: John Adams said, “Our Constitution is wholly inadequate for any but a religious and moral people.”

Micah Beckwith: The Northwest Ordinance—Article III, 1787—says the three things that must be taught in public schools are religion, morality, and knowledge. We got rid of religion in the 60s. Morality went out the window shortly after that.

Micah Beckwith: And now knowledge is going out the window because we got rid of the foundation, which is religion based in the Judeo-Christian ethic our founders knew to be true. There’s a war on truth.

Todd Huff: And that’s a strange quote, by the way, from a president who founded a nation. (chuckles) To make sure, right? So let’s get back into the mechanics here—I just have a few minutes.

Todd Huff: One of the things that has—and I don’t put you in this group, by the way—you’re not in this group, and I don’t put Braun in this group either, I like Braun quite a bit. But I think historically, at least in recent years, Indiana’s Republicans have become, I don’t know, moderate Republicans.

Todd Huff: I’m thinking of—again, you don’t have to agree with what I say, what I say is what I say—but Todd Young, Eric Holcomb. I think we’ve had people like this that are not maybe principled conservatives.

Todd Huff: They’re maybe—I don’t want to say liberal Republicans—but definitely not principled conservatives. And I wonder how much of that, Micah, has permeated the majority in the Senate that we have here.

Todd Huff: Is that part of this? Or do some people just not see the problem with whether we elect Democrats or Republicans to the U.S. Congress? Is it not that big of a deal to them? Is that at play at all?

Todd Huff: What motivates some of these people who may be against the idea of redistricting? What’s going on in their minds?

Micah Beckwith: Yeah, I think it’s twofold. Yes, you’re right—we have some moderate, liberal Republicans, you can call them RINOs. If we were a Democrat-controlled state, they’d love to be Democrats, but they just can’t win that way, so they have an “R” next to their name. Yes, we have that problem.

Micah Beckwith: But I think we also have some principled conservatives who might be against redistricting because they think, “Hey, constitutionally, it’s only every ten years, right?” Well, there’s a way to do that.

Micah Beckwith: I’ve said it many times over, but they kind of find themselves saying, “I’m sticking to my guns. This isn’t what the founders intended.” Well, yeah—but the founders also didn’t intend that states would lose the ability to pick senators.

Micah Beckwith: There are a lot of things that have happened that warped the founders’ vision—the progressive era, the FDRs, the John Deweys, the Woodrow Wilsons. They laid the foundation for progressivism in the early 1900s.

Micah Beckwith: And one of those things was getting rid of the Senate being controlled by the states. So they just don’t see the big picture. They’re not bad people. They’re just not seeing 30,000 feet above what’s happening and why they need to get down into the weeds here and vote for this.

Micah Beckwith: But yes, we have a problem in Indiana with moderate Republicans. Here’s where it came from—it was the Mitch Daniels era. Now, Mitch Daniels, whom I have a lot of respect for…

Todd Huff: Can you stay one more segment? I’ve got six minutes on the other side of the break if you can.

Micah Beckwith: Yeah, absolutely. 100%.

Todd Huff: Hit that. I’m just up against the clock. I’m too long-winded here. Sit tight, my friends, with Micah Beckwith, lieutenant governor of the state of Indiana. Quick timeout, my friends—back in just a minute.

Todd Huff: Welcome back, my friends. Talking with Micah Beckwith, lieutenant governor of the state of Indiana. I’m going to let him finish his thought—I had to cut him off very rudely last segment.

Todd Huff (Sponsor): Before we do that, though, friends, if you are living in discomfort, you know it can be very tough. Prescription medications can help, but they often come with a list—a long list sometimes—of side effects, not to mention the risk of dependency.

Todd Huff (Sponsor): That’s why more people are exploring natural options like kratom from Christopher’s Organic Botanicals. Family-run company, does things the right way. They work directly with Indonesian farmers and lab-test every batch to make sure it’s safe, clean—no synthetics, no chemicals, no surprises.

Todd Huff (Sponsor): Just honest, natural kratom that’s been used for generations. Real kratom is safe when it’s pure and properly handled. The problems come from synthetic blends, contaminated junk, and people who aren’t really selling kratom.

Todd Huff (Sponsor): Christopher’s Organic Botanicals—they keep it real, clean, and transparent. Start with your Kratom Starter Pack. Use code Todd Huff to save 10%. Truth, tradition, transparency—that’s Christopher’s Organic Botanicals.

Todd Huff: Bring Micah Beckwith back on here. Micah, before the break, you were talking about Mitch Daniels before I ever so rudely interrupted you.

Micah Beckwith: (laughs) No problem, Todd, all good. Yeah, what I was saying was where this moderate Republican ideal came from in Indiana was, if you remember back to Mitch Daniels—whom I have a lot of respect for because he got our fiscal house in order in the early 2000s—he kind of made a social truce.

Micah Beckwith: He said, “We’re not going to address the social issues; we’ve got to fix the economic problems.” That’s all well and good, but the problem is, the left didn’t stop. They didn’t honor that truce.

Micah Beckwith: We had an economic house collapsing, and he did what was right at the time. But we have Republicans who still apply the same Mitch Daniels philosophy in a totally different world.

Micah Beckwith: Remember 2005, 2006—we weren’t seeing the radical Democrat Party like we see today. That wasn’t a party pushing transgenderism, men in women’s sports, open borders, the destruction of the nuclear family.

Micah Beckwith: Even Bill Clinton called for secure borders, and Hillary Clinton called marriage “the pinnacle of the family.” So we kind of have these Mitch Daniels Republicans today who say, “Well, it worked for Mitch back then.” Yeah, but we live in a completely different era now.

Micah Beckwith: They want to stay away from the abortion conversations, the immigration conversations. They want to stay away from the marriage conversations—all of those things that I believe are fundamental to the foundation and fabric of our freedoms.

Micah Beckwith: They don’t want to touch them. They just want an economic house that looks nice and stable. And I’m like, guys, your economic house will collapse if the moral fabric of the foundation begins to falter.

Micah Beckwith: So they just don’t get it. That’s the problem we’re living in. And so now we’ve got this special session call—that’s going to be next week.

Todd Huff: So we have listeners all over the country, but, of course, Indianapolis is home base for me—it’s where we started our program here on our flagship at Freedom 95.

Todd Huff: What would you say to the people here in Indiana—if they want to see this state move forward with redistricting—what can they do? What are some steps that actually could move the needle here?

Micah Beckwith: Call your state senator, because that’s really where the battle is going to be. Call the leadership. Call Senator Bray, call Senator Garten. Garten is a hard yes. Bray is probably a no, from everything that I’m hearing.

Micah Beckwith: But call them and say, “We’ve got to reclaim our voice as a state in Washington—our rightful voice, our fair voice.” This isn’t about taking more than Indiana deserves. It’s about getting our voice back.

Micah Beckwith: Because states like Illinois and California have watered down and stolen the weight of our voice as Hoosiers. This is about reclaiming Indiana’s voice in Washington. Tell them that.

Micah Beckwith: Call your senators and say, “Senator, please fight for our voice in Washington.” This doesn’t have anything to do with Indianapolis. It has everything to do with Indiana’s voice as a whole in D.C.

Todd Huff: And maybe—I’m going to reach out to Rod, too. I know Rod a little bit. Maybe he’ll come on the program and explain his perspective. But, yeah, that’s great advice, Micah.

Todd Huff: I appreciate what you’re doing. You take a lot of arrows—a lot of arrows out there. I wanted to tell you, I’ve got a friend who finds herself in the middle, maybe slightly to the left.

Todd Huff: She’s not a radical leftist. I mean, she’s maybe slightly liberal but a reasonable human being. The organization she’s a part of has been taking a hit from some federal funding cuts, with grants and everything going on with budgets.

Todd Huff: And I can really sympathize with her on that. But when she found out that I knew you, she was a little taken aback. And I said, “You’ve got to give Micah a chance.”

Todd Huff: I said, “Whatever they’ve portrayed Micah as in the public light—how the media has done this or how the Democrats or the lunatics out there have done this—that’s not the guy that I know.”

Todd Huff: So I just want you to know that I appreciate it. I know what it’s like to be maligned—not to the level that you’ve been maligned and mistreated and lied about—but I want to commend you and say keep doing what you’re doing. I appreciate you joining us on the program, my friend.

Micah Beckwith: Thank you, Todd. It means a lot. And yeah, the way I look at it—if the anti-American media is coming after you, it just means I’m doing something right.

Micah Beckwith: If they weren’t maligning me, I’d be a little nervous. So don’t worry, I’m doing something right.

Todd Huff: (laughing) Well, keep doing it. I know you’ve got a busy day ahead, sounds like a busy session coming up here, so I’ll let you go.

Todd Huff: Micah Beckwith, lieutenant governor of the great state of Indiana. Micah, thank you, sir.

Micah Beckwith: Thank you, Todd.

Todd Huff: All right, friends—that is all the time we have today. That’s actually perfectly timed out. I want to thank Micah again for being on here today.

Todd Huff: Appreciate you for listening to the program. What do you think about this? You can let us know—tell me where you think I’m wrong. I’m going to try to get Rod Bray on the program. I’m going to try to get other voices on here as well.

Todd Huff: But friends, it’s time for me to wrap up for the day—as the music is telling you in the background. Thank you so much for listening, my friends. Have a wonderful day. SDG.

Todd Huff

Todd Huff is a popular talk show host and podcaster known for his intelligent and entertaining conservative discussions on The Todd Huff Show, which attracts 200,000 weekly listeners. He covers a variety of topics, including politics and culture, with a focus on authentic and meaningful dialogue. Outside of work, he enjoys traveling with his family, spending time outdoors, and coaching his kids' soccer team.

https://toddhuffshow.com
Previous

The Stack: Why the Founders Got It Right About the Senate
Next

The Stack: Trump’s Drone War on the Cartels