The Stack: Shelby Campbell Talks Michigan 13 and the Viral Charlie Kirk Video
Today’s episode features a civil, surprisingly candid conversation with Shelby Campbell, a Democrat running in Michigan’s 13th District. We discuss her viral clip referencing Charlie Kirk’s death, why she says it was dark humor, and her subsequent apology. We also probe free speech, rights vs. entitlements, and whether there’s real common ground across the aisle on community, media trust, and raising the next generation. Todd shares the conservative case for inherent rights and why phrases like “healthcare is a right” prompt pushback. Whether you agree or disagree, it’s a rare, human exchange in a noisy season.
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Shelby Campbell’s original TikTok — the clip discussed in today’s episode
Yahoo News: “Congressional candidate defends ‘dark humor’ video about Kirk assassination” — roundup of the backlash and Campbell’s defense
Reuters: “Conservative influencer Charlie Kirk shot dead at Utah event” — straight news on the assassination (Sep 10, 2025)
Reuters: “Reactions to the fatal shooting of US right-wing activist Charlie Kirk” — national & international responses
Fox News: “Utah prosecutors to seek death penalty in Kirk case” — status of the case against the accused shooter
Ballotpedia: Shelby Campbell (MI-13) — candidate profile/ballot status
Ballotpedia: Michigan’s 13th Congressional District (overview) — district background & recent results
Michigan News Source: “MAGA ‘can’t get your person back’” — regional coverage of the TikTok controversy
📝 Transcript: Shelby Campbell Talks Michigan 13 and the Viral Charlie Kirk Video
The Todd Huff Show – October 7, 2025
Host: Todd Huff
TODD HUFF: Well, that is right, my friends. You have tuned in ever so wisely. To America's home for conservative, not bitter talk. It's my pleasure to be with you today a little bit different. Format, I guess, for today. I have a special guest who we've mentioned on this program in the past several weeks. Her name is Shelby Campbell. She's running for us Congress in the state of Michigan. 13th district in the Detroit area. I'll give you a little bit of background on that conversation, and I want to get her on and get to talking with her as soon as we can here, and I appreciate her. Joining us, I got to tell you. It is amazing to me the number of people who say they have big comments to say on social media, provocative things. And when I approach them about it, which I do from time to time. And say, hey, why don't you come on and we'll talk about it. They run for the hills. Shelby did not do that, so I truly appreciate that. And so that's where we're going to get to this morning before we get started, though. My friends, let me remind you. Program brought to you in part by our friends at Salty. Salty is an all natural product that can help your cholesterol levels get in check. In fact, it's been proven by science. The science has spoken here and it lowers cholesterol. May be able to do the same thing. For you if you've got high cholesterol, family history of heart problems or high cholesterol. Consider taking salty. I take the product you can too. Salty. S o l t. E a promo code. Todd is going to save you 50% and get you free shipping. On. That order. All right, let me give you a little bit of background, and then I'll. Bring Shelby on here in just a moment. So we talked about this, and I'm going to let her respond to all this stuff. But a couple of weeks ago, in the wake of Charlie Kirk's assassination death. shelby went to tiktok i think it may have been x i don't know it's been lots of places now because people Have due, edited or used that clip and so forth. And she said, quote, I'm not going to play the clip here. I'm just going to read what she said, very short. Video. Hey, Magga, how does it. Excuse me. How bad does it hurt the Jimmy Kimmel? Is back, but you guys can't get your person back. And then she followed it with the laugh. I don't know if that was hers or some audio from somewhere else. She was referencing Charlie Kirk's death. I reached out to Shelby via email. It was late. One night, and I got to be honest, I didn't think she would respond. She responded almost immediately, and she said that she was interested in having a conversation. And I said, that's great. Let's set something up. And she put me in contact with her. Campaign manager who was a little bit more reluctant, saying that he didn't know that Shelby was ready, from the campaign's perspective to talk about this, but I heard from Shelby again. And. She said that she wanted to talk, and so she's coming on the program here today. Shelby, welcome to the Todd Huff show. Did I summarize that correctly? Anything you would add, just regarding how I set that up.
SHELBY CAMPBELL: Hi. Thank you again for having me on here, but. No, you said it perfectly. I'm sitting at my kitchen table where. I made the video. I can't say I regret it because I have all this attention. I know it's. Not good. But now, look, I wouldn't have had this opportunity if I wouldn't. Have made. The kind of, I guess I can say trashy video, as everybody else has said, and no that was me. It was my little dark humor. Laugh at the end, not very proud. That everybody has seen. But what can I do now.
TODD HUFF: Walk me through that real. And I don't want to belabor this. I don't. I actually appreciate what you just. I truly do. I mean, we come from. I'm a conservative. I'm a Christian. I let you define where you fall, but you're on the political left somewhere. But I do appreciate that. So what was the thinking behind. Because I know you said that this was.
SHELBY CAMPBELL: Absolutely. None. It was like 650 in the morning at my house. I'm just bored. I like to just. I don't know. I like to just talk crap and make dark jokes and. I know that people don't like to joke about death, and I don't either. Like, when I saw that he had been assassinated, I made a video and I was like this. Is terrifying. Like he's. My age. And I think that's why it hits differently for me, because. I went to school with a lot of boys. Like Charlie Kirk. Like I said, my age, my demographics, white, male, christian, conservative. And it was very hard. Like, I was bullied a lot, and I don't know. It was just a different environment. And now that I've left that I see it for what it is. And. I don't know. It's not all like that. Not everybody is mean, but. It's just. I don't know. I grew up with boys like him, so I. Guess I have a different perception of him.
TODD HUFF: Okay, when you say like him. Look. You've owned it. I appreciate that. Now, you said you don't regret it because. It's gotten you attention, which I understand. The marketing or the promotional side of that. But do you regret? I think about it, and I don't want, listen, I don't want to, Rick. You over the coals, over this? I don't. But I think about grieving widow. Children. I mean, you have children? I think I saw on your website. You regret it. For. Well, I'll let you speak for yourself.
SHELBY CAMPBELL: Okay for people looking at me like I am an insensitive. Witch devil, as everybody has been saying. I'm not. I've just seen a lot. Of dark things in my life. Like I said, my best friend's dad passed away when she was like eleven. And she always makes jokes about it. And I'm like, well, at least your dad's dead, so he can't talk to you, and we just make jokes. And that's literally what we do to get by in life, because there's so much dark. Darkness out there. We've all seen it. People genuinely. Project. What they have experienced in life, and I guess that's just how I've been. Raised to laugh through the pain because we've just seen some stuff I don't. Know if I can swear on here. I don't know of how we're doing. That's where we're on. 23 radio stations. I'll get in trouble, okay? There we go. Good.
TODD HUFF: Okay, so you made a comment there, and I do want to dig a little bit on that. You said that. You grew up with people like Charlie Kirk. It sounds like maybe you said that you were bullied or something. Maybe. Tell me a little. Bit about your experience, I guess.
SHELBY CAMPBELL: I grew up in Rockton, Illinois. It is primarily white, like when you look at the demographics. It doesn't even have black on there. And now I live in Detroit. It's a whole different environment and race. It does have an effect on it, but it's just culturally, it's not. Oh. Like one person acts like this because of that. Their skin color is culture, too. It's like where everybody's grown up and how they are raised. So these boys are more conservative. So growing up, I don't know how to say it. They would pursue you and then be the one. To call you names if you took an interest, and that's just what it seems like. It seems like people preaching things that they don't follow behind closed doors. I don't. Know. When I saw the video of Charlie Kirk saying, Like Chin K. Like calling somebody that. That reminds me of the boys I went to school with. They didn't think they were racist. Neither did I back then, but we had a lot. Of viewpoints that. From a person of color. Like listening to us. It's so racist, and we don't think it because. We are not used to being a minority, ever. And now I am. So I have just learned. To perceive things differently by environment. And like I said, Charlie Kirk reminds me a lot of where I came from. And it wasn't so like my dad and my brothers. It was like the boys that I went to high school with. A lot of them now are Donald Trump, like maggot lovers, and they're still kind of mean to me and. It's like, I don't understand why you guys think I'm this awful. Person. i've went to law school i finished half of that i'm going to get my masters i've worked on the assembly line I've bartended. I was a CNA. I have walked through so many walks of life, and people still want to be mean to me from high school, and it's like, why are you guys so mean still? It's like, be nice. Like, we were all just. Kids grow up, enjoy life and be kind. So I know it kind of sounds hypocritical. When I'm talking because of my mean Charlie kir. Kirk thing, but it's genuinely how I feel. And I don't know, I just went on a tangent.
TODD HUFF: That's all right. It helps explain some thinking. Mom was Shelby Campbell. She's running for Congress. Democratic candidates 13th district in the state of Michigan in the Detroit. Area. So how would you define. Your well, before I ask that, you mentioned you've alluded to racism a couple of times. Is it your contention or belief? That. I'm a conservative. In fact, the tagline on our program is conservative, not bitter. You and I have maybe more in common than we realize with the way we were raised. My dad. Was a UAW member of Local 933 here in Indianapolis. So I was raised in a union Democrat home. Not a leftist home, not even a liberal home, a conservative Democrat home. But they voted Democrat because. They thought that Republicans were trying to get their jobs and that the Democrats were protecting them and basically that summarizes their thinking. But when you hear someone say they're a conservative, I mean, you've used the word racism. Is that inextricably linked in your mind? Do you think I'm a racist? Shelby, what's the thinking when you hear that?
SHELBY CAMPBELL: No. And I genuinely, like I said, I don't think people realize it. Because you haven't. Analyzed it. In a different viewpoint. You just look at it from yourself. That's exactly what I used to do, too. But no, I don't think a conservative is just somebody that has more conservative values. That's what it used to be like. Bush and Obama or Mitt Romney and Obama. Those debates were beautiful. I love that. I know. I was young, but I still watched it. That not being a conservative does not equal racist. It's just like the make America great. Again and you don't define what you mean by that and just put a slap like. Make America great again. It's like, make America great for who? I agree. Make America great for everybody, though, where we don't go back in time. When laws were put in, like, we had to put laws in place to let people of color and women vote, and you have bank accounts. So it's like, who was doing great then? Yeah, maybe white women were if they were married to a white man. But, like a person of color? Couldn't even buy a home in a neighborhood like when I was in law school and. We were reading about property laws. It literally said in the deeds, you cannot have. Probably said Negro then, that you could not have them live in the neighborhood like it was in. The deed. Like you could not sell a house to that. And it really humbled me. So it's not that people are racist. They just don't realize that the things they believe in are rooted in racism, and you don't know it until you study it. And they don't want us to do that. Like in the south. I learned in college. That they rewrote the history book. So it's like, oh. They really did rewrite it, so that didn't seem as bad as it was, and. That's why education is so important to me. I know. I'm going on another tangent again.
TODD HUFF: I asked you, and that's helpful too. Certainly we can agree, and I talk about this on this program a lot. First of all, I want you to know I didn't go to law school. I went to a pre law. Program and decided not to. Pursue that path. But. I can certainly, in my mind, recognize that there were things in America's past that are not good that are reprehensible. Even slavery, of course, at the top of that list. But can you just. Put aside your politics for a moment, just as a human being. Can you see that maybe there are things that not included in this that are in part of America's history that maybe we've deviated from some of. The foundational components of our history. The respect for the Bill of Rights and individual liberty, or do you just not see it that way at all. Because when I see make America great again, of course, it is open to some degree to interpretation, but I would also say to you, certainly hope and change was as well, but I would say. What is it that. Is there a part of that that you can say? I can see where they're coming. From some of these things they want to restore because, I mean, Shelby, our culture is going to hell in a handbasket. Surely we could agree on that, at least in part, yes. Taking all politics out of it as a person.
SHELBY CAMPBELL: That's why. Sorry. Drinking water. I don't try to talk about. Liberal, republican, conservative. In the past when I decided to run, I was like, I don't want to talk. About that? Because it doesn't matter. We all have this. We all want the same things. Like you said, like freedom of speech. We should all be able to say what we want and. Not have the media be monitored. And as long as it's being truthful, And not steering us into war like my video was potentially doing. Until I said I was sorry for it. I didn't ride on it and be like, yeah, everybody, let's fight. No, I was like, guys, I'm sorry. Let's get along. We want the same things. And, I don't know, another tangent.
TODD HUFF: I didn't see that. Did you put out an apology video or something? Is that what you're saying?
SHELBY CAMPBELL: Yeah, I went on the news, actually, the local news, and they had me. Send in a video. It was like fox two or fox four, got you. And basically what I said is what I said was true. What I said was true. It was insensitive, but it's just like the irony. With the political climate right now, it's just freedom of speech. Is being limited, it seems, and not respected on both sides. Like both of us feel the same. Way. So it's like, why are we mad at each other? We agree?
TODD HUFF: It's interesting, Shelby, you say that. So one of the things. That we've done here. In our family a couple of years ago. We sold our house and we traveled the country for a bit to promote the show we called it the truth tour. And as I've traveled the country, it's remarkable to me. I think, and I say on this program, I say that I think that 80% of this country. Now, there might be a little hyperbole here, but there's still truth here. What you said. I'm going to piggyback what you said. I think 80%. Of the country would agree with 80% of what I say on this program. Even people on the political left. I'm not talking about the. Radical extreme leftists who there are people out there that hate this country is founded want to start from scratch. Those are different people. There's problems across the political spectrum, but I think there's a lot of people. Who would agree? And I'm interested to hear you say that. So I guess, where do you think that those areas of agreement are. And then maybe we'll talk a little bit about your politics. In particular. But where do you think we can find agreement? It'd be nice. listen i don't want to compromise my principles that there's part of politics is you got to be tough and fight for this stuff in a nonviolent way of course but another part of this is hey Sometimes we talk past each other, sometimes. we're so caught up in Our tribes, so to speak, that we don't see that there is common ground. I actually wrote a column called common ground. What common ground do you see? Am I wrong in that assessment?
SHELBY CAMPBELL: No. I think we honestly agree on almost everything. It's just we have a different approach in how to get there and the division that has been put on us throughout history. Just shows that these people on top have always wanted people on the bottom to not agree, and fight over things and not look at who is really in charge and who is in control of everything. Like when I was in law school. As I said, you read cases, and all it is is. Rich people being petty and suing each other in court because they can, because they have enough. Money. So they're the ones that have literally made the foundations of our country. And if people just knew that they would go to court more. You can represent yourself, pro se, at least. In Michigan? I don't know. And it's amazing, but people don't know how much power you have as a person, and it's because you don't have time to think about it, because we're living in this capitalistic society. And I think before you called, I was thinking. I think your side thinks of communism and socialism as like the leftists think of capitalism. I think they're both good. Just have been implemented now, at least capitalism by bad people. That are in charge and not redistributing everything that we've done. Like, succeeded with capitalism is and like, communism. I saw somebody like, post about that or socialism and they were like, it's never worked. And I was like, yeah, because. The China famine. I believe this is what my professor said. I can't remember. It was. A few years ago. But don't quote me. I think it was 80 million people died. In that famine when they were a communist country. And it's not because they didn't. Have enough. He wasn't listening. And that's the issue that we still have people on the top. Do not listen to the people on the bottom. And people on the bottom want to fight. It is just a whole circle of everybody blaming everybody when it's like. No, just look. Up. They're the ones in charge. That's who's doing it. Stop hating. Each other. There's more of us than there are of them, and I. Said that in class too, because. There's just such a gap in all of the sectors that everybody thinks that we're. All so different, but we're literally all the same. It's just delivery and. How you're raised.
TODD HUFF: So where do you fall on the political spectrum? You sound like you are not a fan of capitalism, but I don't want to put words in your mouth.
SHELBY CAMPBELL: I am. It did great. We can mass produce. And what? I mean, with the sectors, like when. I was sitting in a classroom full of. 20 year old kids and I'm like 28 or something. When I was there. They had no idea how the assembly line worked. I'm like, when I work 10 hours, at the Belvedere assembly plant in Illinois, we would build 618. I think jeep was it the cherokee. Whatever. A jeep 618 in one shift. And there was three shifts, then so many cars. That's every day. I'm like, where is all? This going? And they were like, wow. I'm like, yeah. We have succeeded. We have enough stuff. I think I saw on the news that we're, like, sending things places and then burning. It instead of giving food to people like why? It's insane to me, and it's disgusting. And we just all need to come together, and that's it. And this division really does. Need to stop. And I sound hypocritical because of how I'm here. But it's how I genuinely feel. And I love people. I want to get along.
TODD HUFF: Listen. I'm a bible believing Christian, and I didn't know. I didn't know. In fact, I share with my listeners. I have no idea. I don't do many interviews. Tomorrow we have Eric Trump coming on the program. But we don't do many interviews by design, and I had no idea where this was. Going to go. I mean, all I had to go on was a few emails. And. The video that I had initially seen. And I had no idea where this was going to go. But I think that people, especially if you accept responsibility. I mean, it was pretty bad, I think, what you did, but I'm not here to. Cast judgment. Welcome, little buddy. And that's fine, too. We got kids here as well. But. I think. People are forgiving for. Genuine. I guess. Change of heart. So. I'm happy to hear that coming from you. I have other questions for you. I'm getting up against the break here. Are you willing? To stick around for the next segment, or do you need to cut Shelby?
SHELBY CAMPBELL: He's out here now kicking the ball, and I told him I would take him to go get sharks at the gas station. You might fight us if I don't.
TODD HUFF: Okay, that's. All right. Well, I'm out of time. This segment really quickly. In 30 seconds. 30 seconds. I mean, tell me your political position. Just what you're running on. Just in. A nutshell. 32nd campaign. Speech so that people understand your political perspective.
SHELBY CAMPBELL: Okay. I want to get back to community. That means health care for all. We all deserve it. It should be a right. Housing should be a right. We just need to come together and focus on what is important, which is ourselves and our children. We need to get back to wanting to make the world. Great, I guess, or America great for everyone. And that includes including the next generation. We've kind of gotten into this. Me. Me. And we need to get back to wee. If that makes sense. I guess I could end it on that.
TODD HUFF: That's good. That's. All the time that we have. I'm Shelby. I hope that you feel like you. Were able to stay. What you wanted to say on this program. I appreciate you joining us. and it wasn't that bad i don't think was it no actually this is what i want to do a little nerve wracking but I've got to cut due to time constraints. I appreciate you joining us. That's shelby campbell, running in Michigan's 13th district. Democratic candidates folks, I got to take a break. You're listening here to conservative, not bitter, talk. I'm your host, Todd huff, back. In just a minute.
TODD HUFF: Welcome back, my friends. What did you think of that conversation I had with Shelby Campbell there's? Lots of things I wanted to talk about. She agreed to come on the first segment so she didn't jump ship there. I just looked at the clock and thought, man. I didn't know. I didn't know. As I was preparing for that interview, I. Mean, you got to put yourself in my shoes. All I know is that there's a person that's willing to talk with me. That I think said some reprehensible things. That needs to not happen, especially for someone running for office. These sorts of things shouldn't be said. She owned it. I mean, she owned it by. And large. I wasn't going to rake her over the coals continually over that. She seemed to basically apologize and turn from that. Anyway. But the point is, I didn't know if I was going to be on here. With someone who was going to be defending that, and I was going to push to talk about. Why that shouldn't be acceptable. And then they would hang up, so I was ready to go to other topics or whatever. I had no idea where this was going to go, but that was a pleasant conversation. And I appreciate Shelby coming on, but there's some follow ups that. I wished that I had time and I was trying to get to. I'm interested in. She mentioned being bullied. By conservatives. And maybe that happened. I'm sure that it can happen. There's certainly. Listen. I think, remarkably consisted on this. There are people in every group. In every single group that we break ourselves into, liberal, conservative, Christian atheists. There are people in every group that make bad choices, right? I go through the list of the people in the Bible. In fact, we're going through the Book of Psalms. My family and I. And rating a lot of David's psalms. I mean, David was an adulterer and. A murderer. god never condoned the behavior he did say that david was a man after his own heart there are people that are in any group that can do reprehensible things and if we're all being honest with ourselves as human beings capable of Well, who have committed and are capable of great sin. We can do reprehensible things. And so there are people that are doing bad things in any group. The problem, though, what you really want to sniff out. And eliminate are the groups that encourage. And defend poor or bad choices and behavior. I would contend. And Shelby, this is one of the things I was going to ask her. She was talking about how capitalism and communism have both. Whatever degrees they've failed, it's because of some other factor, right? It's. Because of humans. I heard about this. The leader in the case of communism. I remember my last course in college of Butler. Well, I think it was my last thing. It was my senior spring semester, I think it was. Anyway, one of the last courses I took at Butler was a course called is capitalism really better? And I don't know where I would have asked her that because I remember at the end of that course, there were eight of us. In the class. Four girls, four boys. The four boys void voted by self included, identify as a male and I am a male. I raised my hand and cast my ballot firmly for capitalism. The four girls all voted for communism. I'm not saying that all. Girls are communists. That's not what I'm saying. I'm just giving you. The facts. And it was a tie vote, which was problematic to me, but one of the defenses for communism is. Well, the ideas are so great, we just haven't had what they call the benevolent. Leader. We've always had someone in there who just couldn't get it right. The ideas are sound. I'm not saying that they are. I'm saying this is the argument, so I wanted to ask her a little bit about that. She said health care is a right. Health care is not a right. She's gone to law school. She should know this. A right is not something that you can demand that someone else provide for. You right is something you have inherently from your creator. That's why you have a right. To free speech. I have a brain. I have my beliefs and ideas and preferences and everything else, and I've. Got my mouth and I can say them on here. You don't have to listen. To them, I can say. Them. As I go about my day. Talk to people on the street about them in the office place, in my home where I can choose not to. I have the freedom to say what I want. Now. There's other factors. That might say, hey, not the best time to bring that up, that sort of thing, but I have the freedom of speech, not because someone has given me that, but because I have it. I can exercise it. That should be very, very clear. I have the right, which is the Second Amendment is built upon. The right to protect myself from bodily harm. Whether that harm comes at the hands of a common criminal. Or the crime. The risk. The violence comes at the hands of someone. Who? Is representing the government and a tyrant. I have the right to defend myself using a firearm or. Whatever other means that I can use. Again. You can see I have that inherently. The only way is to stop that is for someone. To try to physically prevent me from using it, right? Health care is not that way. I'm not saying it's not something we should. Aspire to. I'm not talking about government run health care, but we should aspire. Where people can. Get. You know, can, can get the health care they need as affordably as possible. That's a good thing. Nothing wrong with that. What's wrong is when you start saying it's a right and that someone else has to pay for that. Someone else has to provide that. That's no longer. A right. The right to petition your government for a redress of grievances. The right. To be able to congregate and to assemble with people. Whomever you want, you can go protest. You have that right again. You can go do it. There's nothing that prevents you from doing it naturally. Only governments or forces can try to prevent that. That's why these things are rights. Rights come from God. There are many good things that are out there. I think it's good for everyone to have a job. You don't have a God given right to work at a specific company. You don't. Have a guarantee. To be hired by anybody. You have the right to go and do work. There's right. To work laws have the right, if given the opportunity to work somewhere, I have the right to. Go and to be able to provide for my family. That I don't have the right to demand someone give me a job and pay me. For something if it doesn't fit into their budgets, into their plans and so forth, so. We could have talked a little bit about that, a little bit more about. Her ideology. And so forth. But anyway, all in all, again, I had no idea where the conversation was going to go. So I didn't know. I didn't know if it would be a five minute. Conversation or something that I wanted to continue. So I did want to continue it just for the sake of asking some of those questions. Sorry. We couldn't. But again, I want you to know that she didn't sign up. For something and then back out. We agree? It, which is about 23 minutes. And so that's what we did. So I probably have more to say about this as I gather my thoughts here. But friends. Maybe you've reached that stage where managing your money feels more like juggling. Than just. Numbers. Maybe. It's not just the math anymore. Maybe. It's just managing a bunch of different things. Competing sometimes. For your attention. And so you've got things like tax planning, you've got estate work, you've. Got investment choices a whole lot more. That's when family office services can really make a difference. My friends may be able to make a difference for you as well. Full suite wealth. 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We had a conversation. I'm glad that she at least apologize. Or to some degree, backed away from her remarks. Saying it's dark humor. I mean, you can. You can assess the. The thinking and all. That. But she did. She didn't stand by them and demand that, you know, like she said. That, you know, help me join this fight. And that's what happens a lot of times. In politics, you have some of these politicians say ridiculous things. Then they double, triple, quadruple down, and suddenly. They've got a rabid base that's ready and willing to defend them to. Do any sort of behavior. No matter how reprehensible it may be. I commend her for that. I appreciate her coming on. I still don't know if she got approved by her campaign manager. Her campaign manager did. Tell me that he didn't want her doing this just yet, or she wasn't. Ready to have that conversation. But she did reach back out. I give her all the credit in the world. I think that her politics are terrible. And I absolutely would not vote for her. But my friends. At least we can have a conversation with somebody. Like Shelby. So I appreciate her coming on. Timeout is in order, my friends getting to end of the segment you're listening here to conservative, not bitter talk. Fact, if you don't believe we're conservative, not bitter, I mean, just listen to that interview. I don't know how to prove it, my friends. I didn't want to rake her over the coals or attack her, and we gave her a chance to respond, and I enjoyed it. Quick time out, though. Back in just a minute.
TODD HUFF: Welcome back, my friend. I was thinking during the break. If you go back and I've played, I don't want to belabor this. But I know some of you out there. You might not want to see. Shelby let off the hook at all because those initial comments were pretty terrible. Again, let me read. Them. I'm not going to play the clip. I don't even know if I. Have the clip handy here, she says, hey, magga, how bad does it hurt the Jimmy Kimmel? Is back, but you guys can't get your person back. And then she said that. Was her laugh. Which, again, I can't play the sound bite right now. I just don't have. It pulled up, but I don't know. Listen. So what's the right way? I know that there are all sorts of videos out. There of people raking her over the coals. And based upon that video, I say that? That's exactly justifiable. I mean, based upon that. Now, what do you do if. She says, you know what? She did say. I appreciate the attention that this has brought me. She's running for Congress. This has brought her attention, but she has apologized too. I don't know. I think that there should just be a full throated apology and say, listen, that was wrong. On me. I don't know how you do that. Listen, especially on social media. I don't understand it. Or writing a message. I don't have a problem with being. Kurt or Frank or candid, whatever you want to say. But to do a video like that, to cut it and then. Probably. Hopefully, at least look at it and then post it. There's just so many steps. That you would think. They're screaming out there saying I probably shouldn't post that. There's a lot more steps to that than there are coming on this program every day. And speaking. I've got one filter. The filter is as I'm thinking about what to say. Specifically. I know what I want to get to for the day. I know generally what I want to discuss. But this isn't a scripted show. I don't plan. Out every statement. This is a conversation with you, right, about the issues of the day. And so. Forth. And how I say something specifically comes out. With my brain thinking about it right before I say it. Thinking about timing and thinking about. The cadence or the pace, the tone. I got to do all that in real time? And I've never said anything as reprehensible as that, and. There's a lot more likelihood that something could happen on this show. Than. To take the time to record a video, review the video, take time to post and upload. The video. There's so many checkpoints there. So I know some people think, well, you just shouldn't let her off the hook and. I don't know. I come at this as best I know how. And we didn't get into the issue of faith. I don't want to speak. As to what Shelby believes from a biblical perspective because. I don't know. I can only say what I believe. And what else are you supposed to do? If she acknowledges, she shouldn't have done it. You move on. Maybe she's shown she's not fit for office. I think there's other reasons to say people should make another choice. In this election. In Detroit. But again, This is not going to be a conservative district to begin with. Anyway, I'm curious to know your thoughts. Share your thoughts with me on the interview. You can email todd@toddhuffshow.com you can text 3117. Two again, 317-21-0283 the best way to stay in touch with this, though, is the email newsletter. Which. We're working on even making that better. The Daily Truth is the name of that you can subscribe to that is totally free. You'll find daily emails, some of the things we discuss on here, some other things happening. Behind the scenes are just updates. It's the first place that I put most announcements. Is in that email. It's not a perfect. I mean, sometimes it just depends on the. Circumstance, but that's the idea. That's the inner circle of the fans. If you're a fan of this program, I encourage you to sign up there. It's totally free. 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