The Stack: This Is What Real Insurrection Looks Like
What happens when local and state leaders openly defy federal law? In today’s Toddcast, Todd breaks down what is unfolding in Minnesota and why it represents something far more serious than political disagreement. Governor Tim Walz and Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Frey are actively obstructing federal immigration enforcement, calling ICE an “occupying force” while chaos escalates in the streets.
Todd explains why this behavior meets the definition of real insurrection, why the Insurrection Act is now firmly on the table, and how Democrats are panicking over demographic and electoral realities. This is a warning about what’s coming next — and why enforcing the law is not optional if our republic is going to survive.
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📝 Transcript: This Is What Real Insurrection Looks Like
The Todd Huff Show – January 19, 2025
Host: Todd Huff
Todd Huff: My friends, this is what real insurrection actually looks like. I know you’ll hear, chance, if you go to these leftist rallies — or of course, you don’t attend those — but if you see those here, those on the news media, if you read about them online or whatever, you’ll hear, chance, this is what democracy looks like. Well, my friends, this, unfortunately, is what insurrection looks like. We’re witnessing it in the state of Minnesota.
Todd Huff: And be ready and prepared for what may be coming our way next year. That’s what I want to talk about today. I want to focus on the nation’s most dangerous governor, Governor Tim Walz. And I want to focus on the nation’s most dangerous now mayor, the mayor of Minneapolis, Jacob Frey. I’ve got lots of stuff in the stack of stuff to get into today. That’s where we’re headed, my friends. You know, one of the biggest challenges that we as conservatives face is finding ways to ensure that our values align with the way that we live our lives. That includes how we invest our money. That’s why I love what the team at 4:8 Financial is doing. What they’re doing is really good in this area of investing, my friends, because they specialize in what is called biblically responsible investing.
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Todd Huff: Friends, Trump is preparing — it’s being reported — to send up to 1,500 soldiers to Minneapolis, or to Minnesota, probably Minneapolis in particular, for possible deployment. And that would mean that he would be invoking the Insurrection Act. This is something that’s been out there, something that’s been discussed, pontificated about for some time now, and there’s a reason. Let’s lay the groundwork. We’ve talked a lot about this lately. Federal agents have been obstructed repeatedly. As is the MO of the Left, it’s the way that they operate. Federal agents are being obstructed from doing their job, from enforcing federal law on the ground in Minnesota. And it’s not just Minnesota, but it’s reached a fevered pitch in that great state.
Todd Huff: It’s a great state that’s being ruined by the country’s most dangerous governor, Tim Walz, and the country’s most dangerous mayor. That one’s a little tighter because we’ve got Zohran Mamdani that doesn’t want to be outdone, but I would say as of right now, the most dangerous mayor in the country is Mayor Jacob Frey. Look at what’s happening in his city, and look at what he’s out there saying.
Todd Huff: I’ve got a soundbite, a clip of him — or I guess an interview of him — that he had this weekend on CBS, which that’s in my stack of stuff, my list of things to get to here. But ICE is being treated as a hostile presence, as an occupying force, as Jacob Frey said during his interview. You know for a fact that civilians are coordinating their behavior. You know for a fact that this is funded by some leftist, radical, extremist group, some of these Soros-linked or Soros-type individuals that are funding this. Undoubtedly, there are paid protesters — quote, unquote, protesters — which, by the way, again, even I, even I, the one here behind the microphone, still — it’s a subtle thing — but it’s not protesters that we have a problem with.
Todd Huff: But this is the language, right? We say that they’re funding the protest. No, they’re funding the riots. They’re funding the lawlessness. Protests are fine. It’s the lawlessness and the obstruction that comes to prevent ICE agents from enforcing the law. That is where this real problem lies. It’s coordinated. It’s almost certainly funded by these radical extremist groups, and it’s dangerous. It’s dangerous, in fact. I saw a video posted by someone who’s in Minneapolis who had a rental car. The rental car he was driving had Texas plates, and he was videoing the responses of people driving around the city of Minneapolis when they saw Texas plates.
Todd Huff: Because what was happening? What was happening? Now, I can’t substantiate this, but this makes perfect sense. This falls right in line with what we already know. And by the way, I don’t know a better explanation for this, but anyway, he’s out driving — I don’t know — getting something at a fast-food restaurant or something, parked in a parking lot, whatever. And when people see that he has Texas plates, they begin honking their horns loudly. Not just one or two cars. I’m talking lots of cars. And what he says is happening is when they see a vehicle without state plates and they believe he was with ICE — he was not — he said he’s just a person with a rental car.
Todd Huff: And people start honking to alert people. “Here’s an ICE agent over here.” We’re going to aid and abet those who are trying to stay away from said ICE agents. And so they start honking their horns, which, of course, nothing is illegal about honking your horns. But obstructing — obstructing an actual legal operation is. And we’ve crossed into that in many, many instances. We’ve talked about the tragic Renee Gorde shooting and all these. We spoke about the incident where there was another attack on an ICE agent. This is becoming status quo. This is becoming the way that it works.
Todd Huff: Street violence is escalating, not just at night. It’s happening in many cases in broad daylight. And so here you hear states talking — leftist states — states run by governors that have no idea what they’re doing, or if you prefer the more cynical view, governors who know exactly what they’re doing. Because as I talked about in today’s Todd Talk — I won’t get into this, by the way — the Todd Talk is in the email newsletter that goes out every day. And I’ll tell you, if you want the more documented version of this program, sign up for the email newsletter.
Todd Huff: We have all the things we discuss, a summary of the program. You’ll find the bullet points as to the key points of this program. You’ll find links to the stack of stuff, which I’ve just decided to add that. I don’t know why I didn’t do that before. Anyway, if you want to dig deeper into the things I’m talking about — because there are things happening that I can’t possibly get to on this program — sometimes you’ll find additional commentary that I simply don’t have time to get to, or things move quickly, and there’s a lot to get to.
Todd Huff: And usually when I get finished with the program, I think, “Oh, I didn’t get to this,” and I add those sorts of pieces to the newsletter. So you can sign up free at the website, toddhuffshow.com. But this concept — the concept of federalism — by the way, I believe in federalism. Federalism is states’ rights. Basically what that means is that the federal government, if you get over this at a 30,000-foot viewpoint, is supposed to do what the Constitution says it can do.
Todd Huff: That’s its job. It’s not supposed to venture outside of that. And everything that’s outside of that is reserved to the states and to the people. The federal government doesn’t control the state. States are autonomous, but they must comply with the constitutional order. We have given — as people, as states, which of course are a collection of the people within this country — we have given certain powers. We have given our consent to the federal government in certain areas for them to manage things, for them to have authority.
Todd Huff: And by the way, we’re going to get to the Insurrection Act. You’re going to see that this is completely justifiable at this point for Trump to actually enact the Insurrection Act. This is actual insurrection. This is not January 6th stuff. This is actual insurrection. This is defiance — repeatedly — of federal authority, of federal law. This is obstructing. This is causing violence and mayhem and chaos, all designed to protect the vote. This is all designed to protect the vote, my friends. Make no mistake about it.
Todd Huff: I talked about it in the Todd Talk, which is going to be in that newsletter today, but I will tell you this without repeating the Todd Talk. David Plouffe, who’s an Obama advisor — former advisor to Obama’s administration — he’s written a piece in the New York Times. And he basically said, “Hey, we have a problem on our hands as Democrats, and we better wake up to the realities that are going to happen, especially after the 2030 census.” The demographic shifts are going to be serious. They’re going to be serious impacts.
Todd Huff: You have people leaving states like California and New York, fleeing to states like Texas or Florida or wherever. So you have red states getting more people. Now, you can say, “Well, if those are blue voters, what’s that going to do?” I mean, there of course is that possibility. But statistically, that’s not likely what’s happening, though certainly some of those folks are blue voters. Make no mistake about it. And so you have fewer people living in a state when we take the next census. There will be fewer people, of course, a smaller percentage of the overall U.S. population, and that will eventually show up with the number of congressional seats that each state has.
Todd Huff: By the way, if these deportations continue, there will be a serious impact — a serious impact — on certain states, especially when you couple that with what’s happening when people are fleeing these states because they’re being mismanaged and chaos is being embraced instead of law and order. Which is happening in Minnesota, and it’s happening elsewhere too. But right now, Minnesota is the poster child of what happens when you have radical leftists running your cities and your state.
Todd Huff: But anyway, David Plouffe says, “Look, we’re going to have a scenario where you can win — the next person running for president, it’s going to be in 2032 after the census — but in 2028 even, this is not going to be easy.” But in 2032, after the census has changed or been calculated in and there’s a new assignment of congressional districts — plus there’s going to be redistricting, remember that as well — and there will probably be more states that take that path.
Todd Huff: When you factor all these things in and you realize that electoral votes are also tied to a state’s number of congressional seats, you have a real problem. And he pointed out that Democrats can win every state Kamala Harris won. Including the states of Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania — Trump won those states — but they could win those three states, the so-called Blue Wall, and still lose the presidency, still not have enough to get to 270 electoral votes.
Todd Huff: This is why, at its core, this is why this is so valuable to them. This is why, if you find yourself scratching your head and wondering, “Why are these people defending the lawlessness happening in their city?” Well, this is why. This is exactly why they’re doing it. But I believe in federalism. I believe in states’ rights. But states don’t have the right to violate the legitimate constitutional authority that the federal government has. That is not an issue of federalism.
Todd Huff: This is intentional confusion that’s being levied, that’s being created. This is intentionally — this is the intentional conflation of things where people are conflating different concepts to confuse Americans about what is actually happening. And that’s exactly what we’re witnessing here. Law enforcement cannot be selectively chosen to be enforced at times and not at others. Cities don’t get veto power. States don’t get veto power over federal law. Their voice in the formation of federal law comes from the people they send to Washington, D.C., to Congress to vote on these things. They don’t get veto power after the fact.
Todd Huff: And this isn’t just protests. This isn’t just people upset in the city or many upset in Minnesota. This is coordinated. These are people who have been trained. In fact, there’s a story in the stack — a story in the stack — where there’s a group that’s trying to bring in up to 4,000 — basically they call them protesters, they’re agitators — into New York City.
Todd Huff: Get ready for what’s going to happen in New York City, because this is coming as well. I mean, we are one year — actually one year exactly — into Trump’s four-year term. We’re 25% of the way through this. If we think for a moment that this is going to suddenly stop, friends, it is not. We have to win this. There is no compromising on these principles. ICE has to do what they are doing. You can’t just back down because the people in the city of Minneapolis — these leftist lunatics — have thrown a big enough tantrum. You can’t do it. It doesn’t matter what they do. The law has to be enforced. I don’t want to see violence, but I will tell you this: you cannot inflict violence or harm or threaten ICE agents and expect them not to protect themselves. You cannot do that.
Todd Huff: And if they don’t want to see violence, then they should stop the violence. They should stop the threats. Mayor Frey and Governor Walz should both maybe have a joint press conference. And say, “Look, we don’t like what’s happening here. We believe in illegal immigration. We’ve tried all we can to change the state of Minnesota by allowing people who aren’t supposed to be in this country legally to have a safe place to live here, protected from consequences in the law.”
Todd Huff: “But you can’t go out there and provoke ICE agents. You just can’t do it.” But that’s probably not going to happen, my friends. I hope it does, but this is insurrection we’re witnessing here in the great state of Minnesota. And it’s been orchestrated and led by the most dangerous governor in America, Tim Walz, and the most dangerous mayor in America, Jacob Frey. So that’s what’s happening here. We’ll get more into this in a moment.
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Todd Huff: Okay, so shifting gears here a little bit to try to lay the groundwork on what’s coming here. The Insurrection Act is very likely at this point coming in the state of Minnesota. So what happens is — what happens is you have a sanctuary state, a sanctuary city in this case, Minnesota. By the way, there’s a story in the stack about Virginia. The new governor there was sworn in, and one of the very first things she did was undo an executive order that was put into place by Governor Youngkin. And she effectively made Virginia a sanctuary state again. That said, local law enforcement will not cooperate with ICE, with people who are trying to deport people who are here illegally. Again, why are they doing this? It is to protect votes. It is to protect the vote.
Todd Huff: I know this is not a popular thing. I know it’s not. But did you see this? This is a case in point. I don’t have this in the stack. I saw this sometime late last week. You know that in Minnesota, Tim Walz made it possible — or the legislature did, and then Tim Walz signed it into law — the ability for anyone in Minnesota to get a driver’s license. Anybody. So anybody can get a driver’s license in Minnesota. This was heralded. People clapped and applauded as though this was some wonderful thing. Then the state legislature was questioning, had some questions for people before a committee as to how this might impact election law in the state of Minnesota. And so they had people up there, and they were asking them, “What does this mean? What happens if someone comes to a polling place and they give you a driver’s license, and that driver’s license is used to verify their identity?”
Todd Huff: “Is there any way that a person with a driver’s license could be allowed to vote?” And the person said, “Yeah, absolutely.” In fact, all you have to do when you’re registering to vote in Minnesota, apparently, according to this witness before a legislative panel — All you have to do is show your proof. This is my ID. This is where I live. You have to prove that you’re from that address or whatever, and then you just sign an affidavit that says, “I basically swear that I’m a legal citizen and I can vote.”
Todd Huff: So the only thing that protects someone — or I should say protects the system, protects the rest of us — from people who are not supposed to be able to vote, at least in the state of Minnesota, is someone’s word. Someone’s word who’s already here illegally, already been given the tools to show who they are with a federal ID in the form of a driver’s license, to walk in there, to give it to the clerk, to sign a paper saying, “I promise I can vote here.”
Todd Huff: That’s all it takes. And all the while knowing that you have people running the government who have no interest in enforcing the law. If, in fact, you are not here legally and you do not have the right to vote, that is what’s happening. Make no mistake. This is going to cause just catastrophic — catastrophic — impact on the votes that Democrats get in Minnesota because they’re being deported. That’s what this is about. I’ve got to take a break, my friends. Back here in just a minute. Welcome back, my friends. Continuing our discussion on what’s happening — and this is intentional, by the way — intentional strategy employed by Democrats in the state of Minnesota, coming to another blue state near you. Maybe a blue state where you live. This is coming to you.
Todd Huff: When ICE is deployed, my friends, to enforce immigration law — which it is absolutely 100% justified in doing — this again, we are witnessing insurrection. We are witnessing a group of people throw a massive tantrum because the people who are here in this country illegally are no doubt casting votes. No doubt people who are here illegally, who have not assimilated, who have no interest in assimilation, the American way — the Left loves this. The Left loves to remake America. They hate its foundational principles. They hate Western civilization. They hate truth. They hate justice. They tell you that they love those things, but they love power. And they love the godlessness that comes from embracing the worldview of the radical Left. That’s what they want. They do not want what we have in this country. They hate America as founded, and this is a way to change that.
Todd Huff: Either to change it by fundamentally altering the landscape of what the people who are here believe, by importing people who aren’t even taught these things — who aren’t even taught about the American way of life or why these things are good. Why America has thrived throughout history. Certainly not a perfect nation. Yes, it’s crazy — it’s crazy that that’s immediately where people go — but if you cannot see the goodness in the founding principles of this nation, my friends, you are not trying.
Todd Huff: That doesn’t mean you cannot see that there are times it has failed, and failed miserably, that individuals have failed miserably. But the principles upon which this nation was built — especially those spoken about in the Declaration — these principles, my friends, have changed life for the better for a tremendously large number of people. And we are indeed blessed in a mighty way. But we’ve got to fight to keep this. We have to absolutely fight to keep this. That’s why it’s important that we not lose the fight in Minnesota and wherever the next battlefield is going to be. Because there are leftists prepared to have this fight all over the country, my friends. So that’s where we’re headed.
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Todd Huff: So we’ve got sanctuary cities and states that are in non-cooperation modes. This opens up resistance. It’s not just that they’re not going to cooperate. States don’t have to cooperate. That is federalism. They don’t have to use their resources to help the federal government do their job, but they cannot interfere with the federal government doing its lawful job. And so over time, the language shifts, as we’ve seen in Minnesota. From “do not assist the federal government” to “we are dealing with an occupying force,” which is something that Jacob Frey has said during his interview on CBS News, in fact.
Todd Huff: And so over time, the language shifts, as we’ve seen in Minnesota, from “do not assist the federal government” to “we are dealing with an occupying force,” which is something that Jacob Frey has said here during his interview — during his interview on CBS News, in fact. I’m going to pull that up here and play that for you, at least a portion of this clip. He was interviewed — Jacob Frey interviewed — on what is a CBS… what do they call that stupid show? CBS This Week? What is it? Face the Nation. There we go. Face the Nation. Oh yes, I think Rush used to call this “Slay the Nation,” if I’m not mistaken. But anyway, Jacob Frey’s on, and I want to play a bit of this so you can get a flavor of what he’s out there saying when he’s out there saying — again — he’s pushing lawlessness now.
Todd Huff: He certainly tones down the rhetoric a little bit when he comes on CBS News here, and he plays the game that leftists play. This guy is an absolute joke. This guy is a complete farce and is just a charlatan. But that being said, I want you to listen to this. He has called ICE an occupying force in Minnesota. Here we go. It’s not going — it’s going on my end, but let me hold on here. Hold on. Let me try that again. Why is that not — I may have to read the transcript to you, because it is not connecting. Yeah, it’s right there. It’s just not going through.
Todd Huff: But it says here: “Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Frey criticized the administration’s immigration operations in Minnesota’s largest city on Sunday, calling the surge of federal agents an ‘occupying force’ that has quite literally invaded our city.” That’s what he said. You can go through whatever rhetorical flourish you want, but when you have 3,000 ICE agents and Border Patrol come to the city, when you’ve got this supposed threat of 1,500 military coming to the city — yeah, that’s very much what it feels like.
Todd Huff: Oh, poor Jacob Frey’s feelings. He feels like his city is quite literally being invaded by the people — by the way — who have the constitutional authority to be there and to do the job that people like Jacob Frey absolutely refuse to do. You know, have you ever wondered what would have happened — and I know you can’t go back in time, number one, and number two, you can never create a scenario where what a leftist does makes sense either — but what would have happened?
Todd Huff: Would we have had this problem if the border would have been enforced, if border security would have been enforced for the decades it wasn’t? Would we have had this problem even if the border wasn’t enforced, but ICE deportations were taken seriously? Would we have had this problem if cities were not established as sanctuary cities? Would we have this problem if they refused to cooperate with ICE over time?
Todd Huff: Would we have this problem if Jacob Frey wasn’t out there stirring the pot and lighting the fuse here, pouring gasoline on this fire by saying ICE is an invading force? We have this problem. Three thousand ICE agents — that’s what your problem is? What’s your number of illegal aliens living in your city, knucklehead? Are you kidding me? Three thousand people is too much for you to handle? I guarantee you there are a lot more than 3,000 illegal aliens that have come into your city that have put strain on the way that your city operates, that have put burdens on your taxpayers — who you don’t seem to care one iota about, Mayor Frey. The most dangerous mayor in America. No one cares what it feels like when you’re dealing with the consequences of refusing to enforce or even cooperate with those who are trying to enforce the law.
Todd Huff: If you would have had 1% of the concern you have about ICE being in your city that you have for people who are there illegally — people who in many cases have physically harmed others, committed violent crimes against other people, other citizens, real citizens of your city. Forgive us if we don’t care. I don’t care how you feel. To be quite honest, I couldn’t care less. I couldn’t care less how much your little feelings are hurt here, Mayor Frey.
Todd Huff: And you know what? Most of America doesn’t either. What was the phrase he used? He called these people angelic dissenters. Was that the phrase? Something like that. Eyes rolls her eyes. I don’t think that — she’s seen that. I think it’s angelic dissenters. Who’s engaging in propaganda here? This is absolutely insane. You have created this scenario. The chickens are coming home to roost, and you better watch it.
Todd Huff: There are reports that investigations are being done as to whether or not Jacob Frey and Tim Walz have colluded, have conspired to create this problem as Trump is preparing to possibly invoke the Insurrection Act and send in troops from Alaska. By the way, I saw that. That’s in the stack of stuff as well. Anyway, sorry the audio didn’t work. I don’t know why it’s playing here. It’s not going through to the soundboard. My apologies, my friends. Quick time out here on my end. You’re listening to Conservative, Not Bitter Talk. I’m your host, Todd Huff. Back in just a minute.
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Todd Huff: I want to play the pertinent part of the discussion that was had between Margaret here and Jacob Frey, Minneapolis mayor, on Face the Nation, when she asked him about the National Guard. So I’ll just let him — let it play for itself. Here’s the back and forth, the conversation that, of course, Jacob Frey said in this conversation that ICE is an occupying force. Here we go. Listen for yourself. Really? You can’t be serious. Who’s reporting that, Jacob? This guy is — I’m telling you — 100% a charlatan, this guy. This is shared. We talked recently about AOC — Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. When she ran for Congress, she responded — or actually her brother responded — to a casting call. Literally a casting call.
Todd Huff: You have people in Congress who are responding to casting calls that have been put out by people who are propagandists, people who are looking, “Hey, we’ve got this ideology, this belief. We just need the face of the movement. We’ll write the script. We need the actor to play the part.” And so AOC’s brother completed the application for the Justice Democrats, and she was selected. And they helped get her elected. I mean, this is — we’re venturing into Manchurian Candidate sort of stuff here. If people responding to casting calls are getting into politics on the Left, for the superficial — I had a conversation with someone yesterday, and we were talking about — she’s a student going into nursing or maybe ultrasound, and she had a test. And she was talking with me about some of the terminology, and she came up and she said “superficial.” I said, “Ah, that’s one of my favorite words.”
Todd Huff: I said most people are — many people are very superficial. Not just superficial medically, talking about something that’s on the outside of the body. This is just something that’s as deep as some people go. And the Left is very superficial. They care more about how the guy saying these things says the words than they are — you talk about people who are primed to fall for propaganda — these leftists will swallow this stuff hook, line, and sinker. They’re now going to say ICE is an occupying force. An occupying force, my friends, that would be a foreign force. Even if you accept that ICE can occupy the state of Minnesota, or in particular the city of Minneapolis — even if you believe that’s the case —
Todd Huff: What they are doing is enforcing the law. The law that people like Jacob Frey are now being investigated for, according to reports, potentially, for doing what they can to prevent the enforcement of it. This is — again, as I said in the Todd Talk, as I mentioned here today — this is political panic. They know that for the Left, for the Democrat Party as it stands today, to have electoral success, they have to have open borders.
Todd Huff: They can’t get people in America — unless they’re radical leftists or white liberal women who — by the way, I was talking with my wife about this — You talk about a group of people that are responsible for maybe the vast majority of our problems today: white liberal women and feminists. That’s a whole other discussion. A whole different discussion for another day. But these folks are the ones who buy this garbage. ICE is not an occupying force. If anything, Jacob Frey and Tim Walz are colluding to foment an insurrection in the state of Minnesota. Trying to encourage people, trying to throw gasoline on the argument, to inflame people to behave in these ways. The most dangerous mayor in America, Jacob Frey, and the most dangerous governor, Tim Walz.
Todd Huff: I’ve got to go, friends. I’m out of time here today. Thanks for listening. SDG.
