The Stack: Law and Order Returns When Churches Are No Longer Targets
What happened at Cities Church in St. Paul, Minnesota was not peaceful protest—it was intimidation. Activists stormed a worship service, shouting and disrupting congregants exercising their First Amendment right to worship freely. In response, the Trump administration and the Department of Justice acted decisively, arresting several organizers under the FACE Act, which protects access to places of worship from obstruction and intimidation. (It also protects abortion providers, but that’s another discussion for another day.)
In today’s Toddcast, Todd explains why this response matters. Law and order only survives when violations are met with consistent enforcement, not selective outrage. Protesters had lawful alternatives—public sidewalks, public spaces, or private property they had permission to be on—but instead they chose trespass and disruption. That line matters.
This case also exposes media gaslighting, including shifting narratives from activists and troubling questions surrounding Don Lemon’s involvement. The episode draws a clear distinction between protected speech and unlawful conduct, reminding us that constitutional rights do not cancel each other out. Protecting religious liberty requires courage, clarity, and the will to enforce the law.
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The Todd Huff Show – January 23, 2026
Host: Todd Huff
Todd Huff: My friends, what we are witnessing now in the state of Minnesota in response to the chaos, the lawlessness there, what is happening there now through the federal government, through the Trump administration, is precisely what has to happen if we are to have a nation of law and order again, if this nation or if these hot pockets of lawlessness are to be fixed. We're going to have to be strong in enforcing the law, and that's taken a lot of shapes. But I'm particularly specifically talking about what's happening here in response to these arrests that have been made after the church in St. Paul, Minnesota, Cities Church, was stormed here a couple of days ago. I want to talk about that today. On this Friday. Man, it's hard to believe we're getting to the end of the first month of 2026. It is really crazy how fast time goes. So that's where we're going to head today, my friends.
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Todd Huff: All right, so let's get started here today. Let's do an update, if you will. I again want to frame this off the top. Law and order will only survive in this country if illegal bedlam and pandemonium and outright lawlessness is responded to appropriately. If it gets the same answer each and every time that it's tried. And by the way, you don't get to trespass and disrupt a worship service just because you have some cause or you have some chance that you want to practice. You just can't do that, my friends. Again, you can protest on public property. You don't get to protest on private property unless, of course, you've got the permission of the private property owner. That's the way that this works.
Todd Huff: And so arresting people who break the law, charging them if they break the law, and following through if they break the law consistently, not selectively, not targeting one group of people, not protecting and ignoring a group of people who may be doing it as well, when this stuff is handled uniformly, this is how you address this. It's what needs to be done. And I'm glad it's happening. So Cities Church, St. Paul, Minnesota. That's where this happened. That's where we go back to last week and we have a worship service. This is a Southern Baptist SBC, Southern Baptist Convention church. They're having services. You've seen the videos. We'll talk about this too, my friends. You've seen the videos. You've listened to the protests, whatever. You've seen it.
Todd Huff: Storm the church. It was rather traumatic for certain people to just be blindsided and have this happen at their church. Especially if you had kids or some of the—I know some of the women were—you know, it was a lot, right? I mean, you're in there worshiping, and all of a sudden you get just a bunch of people coming in screaming. They're coming in from behind you, that's another thing. So you can't necessarily see what's going on. It's a rather vulnerable position in this world that we live in. You may not know if they're armed. You don't know anything. I mean, this is an intimidating situation to be in. Absolutely.
Todd Huff: I would say objectively that this is exactly—I would say almost every person would feel that this was something that at least got them on their guard. They were not sure what was going to happen after this. After the church was stormed again, they were on private property. They're actively worshiping. And then this group of protesters comes in, which, again, I listen. I do on this program from time to time as a public service, as a public service to those on the left who are confused about rights and protest. And I, from time to time, will chime in so that I can let them know when your protest, the protest you're attending, actually becomes a riot.
Todd Huff: And I say things, for example, you know, if you've gone from chanting and holding signs up on a public sidewalk and suddenly you find yourself throwing big chunks of asphalt or water bottles or rocks, you've ceased attending a peaceful protest and you have now found yourself in a riot. When you find yourself no longer walking on the sidewalk, but you find yourself dancing on top of a police cruiser, you have ceased attending a peaceful protest, and you are now in the midst of a violent riot. When you no longer have to use hand warmers and gloves to remain warm and you can suddenly warm yourselves by the open fires that you and the other radical lunatics have set in trash barrels or just openly on the streets, you have ceased attending a peaceful protest, and you now have found yourself, my friends, in a riot.
Todd Huff: Now, I don't want to go as far to say that these folks were rioters. There was no direct violence, but it was definitely confrontational and it was definitely maybe a pre-riot mentality of the folks that stormed this church. If you find yourself in the middle—how about this—if you find yourself in the middle of a worship service and you are attacking or screaming at the people, drowning out the voice of the pastor, if the little kids that are sitting there in the worship service begin to cry and run for the doors or run for cover when you come in, you're probably not part of a peaceful protest. You know, people have confused what protest is. I remember not too long ago—I remember talking about this on the program. This was back when tough guy Chris Cuomo was tough guy Chris Cuomo. And he was at CNN. He and Don Lemon were at CNN. And of course, they had programs that butted up against one another.
Todd Huff: And so they would pass—I forget who came on first. I think Cuomo passed it off to Don Lemon. It could have been the other way. I don't know. I don't really care. All I know is they would, at the end of their programs, kind of talk together. The one that was on first would leave the air, and then, of course, the one that was coming on next, who I think was Lemon—but I could have that flipped, I don't—it could be flipped, actually—then the other one would come on and they would just kind of pass the baton between their poorly run programs.
Todd Huff: But I remember one time, tough guy Chris Cuomo said, and I'm going to paraphrase—I don't have this in front of me—I was thinking about this as I was putting the show together, but I didn't pull the link for this. I didn't necessarily think I would bring it up. But do you remember when he said, “Where in the Constitution does it say protests have to be peaceful?” or something like this. It's a remarkable, remarkable thing to think about. A protest. You know, a lot of people on the left, they think that protest means that they can do certain things, that they can kind of press in on people, kind of find the gray area and make their lives inconvenient so that they then have to pay attention to what they're saying. That is not what protest is, friends. You don't have a right to impede the flow of traffic, making it harder for people to get from point A to point B. They have jobs to go to. They have things to take care of in their lives.
Todd Huff: They might be in need of emergency services, ambulance services. If that can't get there, that's on the people who are stopping traffic. See, they think that protest means that they can make your life difficult by throwing a wrench in the gears, metaphorically and maybe even literally in some instances. In the way that society functions so that it just gets difficult. Make it difficult on the person that doesn't agree with you or doesn't find your issue to be as important or whatever as you do, doesn't see things the same way. They think that they've got a right to make it hard for you to get through the day without being obstructed by them in some way, forcing you to pay attention to them because they've made your day more difficult. That's not protest.
Todd Huff: Listen, I know that's how they think. I'm aware of who these people are, right? It's not—just listen. They can go out on the sidewalks, public spaces. They can exercise free speech. They can present their ideas. They can make their case. They can explain what it is that's so troubling about whatever issue of the day it is. And they've got a lot of things to be protesting about right now with Trump in the White House. But as I look at these issues that they protest against on a one-by-one basis, I check them off as things that are not really things that I agree with at all. I don't agree, for example, that ICE is the problem in the scenario in America.
Todd Huff: I think the people—this is a radical idea today, apparently—but I think the problem are the people who have been here illegally. See, I think the problem—I did the today’s Todd Talk on the waste, fraud, and abuse. A little bit about what's been happening in the Somali scandal in Minnesota. And of course, there's a preemptive measure being introduced in another state, the state of Virginia, by a radical leftist Democrat who says we don't want the state to force nonprofits to verify eligibility of receiving federal funds. We want to actually prevent that from happening, which is exactly the opposite of how a responsible adult would act.
Todd Huff: And so you look at these narratives, you look at how these things are pushed and how they gaslight us, and you go case by case about the things that are out there happening. I think that the problem is not the people who are trying to remove the people here illegally, or the people who are trying to find who is abusing our system, whatever that means, wherever they're from, whatever color their skin is, it makes no difference to me. I think the problem are the people abusing the system and breaking the laws and creating a situation like this lunatic leftist in Virginia that I just mentioned, who's trying to make it harder to find people who are acting fraudulently. I think those people are the problem, not the people enforcing the law. It is a wild, wild leap in my mind for someone to say the problem is not the people who are creating the problem, it's the people who are trying to prevent the problem, the people who are trying to remedy the problem. Right? It's the people here in this case that are arresting people who have violated the law.
Todd Huff: By the way, these protesters, instead of storming the church, they could have used the public sidewalk, they could have used a public space, they could have found or requested to use private property, somebody's private property. But they didn't do that. Instead, what they did is they entered a church during worship services in an intimidating fashion, coming behind the congregants, the parishioners, yelling and screaming, storming the church. Many people—it’s a small congregation—there were a lot of people coming in inside that church, screaming, chanting. These folks in attendance are in a vulnerable position. They don't know what's going on. Children are upset. It's just pandemonium and a mess. They disrupted service. They interfered with someone's God-given constitutional rights to worship as they want to worship.
Todd Huff: And they began to target a pastor that allegedly—I believe he does have a role at ICE—that's their beef. Their beef is with the pastor who wants to enforce the law. And there was an intimidation factor here. Make no mistake about it. Even though they didn't physically assault anybody or use physical violence, they used psychological violence. This was designed to intimidate, and it certainly had that impact. An average, everyday citizen, regular people could absolutely see that, especially for kids and young families. This was not—this could have been a terrible situation, right? I mean, they didn't know, again, people storm in there with weapons. We've got examples of that happening in certain churches where people have come in and shot people.
Todd Huff: So anyway, arrests have been made. A couple here—well, three. Nakima Levy Armstrong, Chantel Luisa Allen, and William Kelly have all been arrested for storming the church, Cities Church, in St. Paul, Minnesota. Friends, you have the right to protest, but you don't have the right to enter private property without permission. You have the right to protest, but you don't have the right to disrupt worship, to interfere with someone's First Amendment right to worship according to their conscience and to their personal belief. And there is no narrative out there that justifies trespassing into a church service, and this is why arrests were made.
Todd Huff: Nakima Levy Armstrong was arrested. The Department of Justice has arrested her for conspiracy and for violating the FACE Act, which I've got that in the Stack of Stuff, which we'll hit on as well. Chantel Luisa Allen, she has ties—she works, I don't—is she on the public school board? It says she works for the public school board, so I don't know if she's a member, if she's an administrator, I don't know, but she's in education. This is the sort of person, by the way, when you hear me talk about the seven pillars of propaganda that the radical left are taking hold of in this country and have used to push their morally bankrupt worldview on us, education is one of those.
Todd Huff: Academia is what I call it. And that's because of people like this. You can tell that she's a radical. And of course, I mentioned William Kelly as well. This is a disruption. This is infringing upon people's, again, God-given constitutional rights here. This is not a protest. Trespass and interfering with someone worshiping, that is the problem here. And that's where we are. That's what happened. So I have an article here at The Blaze. Let me pull this up. That kind of expounds upon this a little bit. Here we go. My link is broken, so I've got to copy and paste here. That's what we're going to do, friends.
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Todd Huff: All right, so let's get back here to this article at The Blaze. “Anti-ICE radical who took credit for the invasion of a Minnesota church arrested by feds.” The Trump administration is evidently willing to put the FACE Act to good use. Radicals from Racial Justice Network, Black Lives Matter Minnesota, and BLM Twin Cities assembled on Sunday for a so-called ICE out action, then stormed a Christian church in St. Paul, Minnesota. By the way, have you seen the lunatics who have been going to Target and buying salt? Is that what they're doing? They're buying salt at Target, and then basically I think as soon as they buy it, maybe they come back the next day, they return it.
Todd Huff: And so there's this huge line of returns because they're mad at Target. Because Target isn't doing enough to protect our neighbors and our friends and their employees from ICE. Well, first of all, if there are people that are here illegally and they're working at Target, what's Target doing to prevent that from happening? Number one. Number two, ICE, again, is just enforcing the law. Listen, the left wants people, wants organizations, businesses, and radical lunatics to interfere with the enforcement of law. That's what this is all about. But they've—this is what they think is clever. It makes sense to them. I saw comments saying that, “Wouldn't you know, what does ICE or salt have to do with this?” Because, of course, we're about to have a winter storm here where I am. But, you know, you can put salt on ice, but why would you want to return it? Isn't that—don't they have the protest wrong?
Todd Huff: It reminds me, as many things do, of Seinfeld. The Seinfeld where Kramer was protesting the post office, and he had a dummy, a postal worker dummy, and he had a bucket on the dummy's head. And they said, “Why is the bucket on the dummy's head?” He said, “Because we're blind to the injustice.” And they said, “Well, shouldn't the bucket be on your head?” And so, yeah, it should have been. Just like the ICE protesters have this backwards anyway. The point is that these people—it's a perfect storm of radical, insane people that don't even know what they're talking about, don't have any sense between them. Three groups assembled Sunday. They got together to prepare an ICE out action. They stormed the church, and now they've been arrested.
Todd Huff: So I got more on that after the break. I want to fill in what one of the people who was arrested is now saying. They're now gaslighting, trying to gaslight the American people about what happened. I want to talk a little bit about Don Lemon. He avoided getting arrested here. A federal judge—or a judge, I should say—refused to issue an arrest warrant for him because of media protections, the First Amendment. There's things that get into it still, my friends. Got to take a break, though. Quick time out. Back in a minute.
Todd Huff: Welcome back, my friends. I wanted to just do a little bit of this article here about the arrest, and I want to also share with you one of the people who was arrested, what she's now out there trying to tell us happened. She's trying to gaslight us. Don Lemon's involved here. That's where we're headed. So back to the article here again. This stuff is all on our website, and it is in our free email newsletter. Friends, if you want the shareable version of the show, if you want the version that has additional information, the background information, links, additional commentary from me, things that you can share, things that you can use to do your own research, that sort of stuff.
Todd Huff: The thing that went into this show, some additional content that sometimes is just more in-depth, and sometimes there may be other things in there. The Todd Talk for the day is in there as well. You can sign up for our free email newsletter called the Inner Circle at the website toddhuffshow.com. But anyway, this is also on the website if you just want to go and find the links anyway. The article that I was reading from before the break, before I had to take the time out, is—I stopped right here. Attorney General Pam Bondi announced Thursday morning that, at her direction, Homeland Security Investigations and FBI agents arrested the people I spoke of.
Todd Huff: One is Nakima Levy Armstrong, the founder of the Racial Justice Network and former president of the Minneapolis chapter of the NAACP, who claimed responsibility for the disruption. The Attorney General indicated that Chantel Luisa Allen, a radical lesbian who has led BLM Twin Cities and worked for the St. Paul School Board since 2020, was also arrested “Listen loud and clear. We do not tolerate attacks on places of worship,” Pam Bondi wrote. FBI Director Kash Patel indicated that both Armstrong and Allen were arrested for alleged violations of the Freedom of Access to Clinic Entrances Act. That's the FACE Act.
Todd Huff: Assistant Attorney General for Civil Rights Harmeet Dhillon indicated in the immediate aftermath of the radicals’ incursion into Cities Church, which apparently has a U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement affiliated pastor, that her office was looking into potential FACE Act violations, quote, “by these people desecrating a house of worship and interfering with Christian worshippers.” So that's kind of the background. The FACE Act, by the way—if you look—is—and I had some stuff on it. Here we go, really quickly with this, because I want to get to the response here, because it's unbelievable.
Todd Huff: The FACE Act, 18 U.S.C. 248, prohibits force, threats, physical obstruction that injures, intimidates, or interferes with someone exercising a First Amendment right. Or it was also designed to have the same protections for those people seeking what they call reproductive health care services, which of course means abortion. And that's what a lot of people want you to believe it only pertains to—clinic entrances. Oh, this is to protect people from being intimidated from getting an abortion. But it explicitly says that it applies to places of worship and anyone who's trying to prevent another person from exercising their First Amendment rights. And so that's why they've been arrested, because they've done that, according to the Department of Justice.
Todd Huff: Now, what's interesting—what's super interesting—I'm going to play—I’ve got two clips here. I'm going to play the Don Lemon clip first. Don Lemon is in this scenario. He's in this mess because he's inserted himself. He's not some victim or something. He was almost arrested. He was almost arrested and arguably should have been arrested. We'll get to that in a moment. But this is an interview he did with—this is when Nakima Levy Armstrong, one of the people who was arrested—this is prior to them going into—I think it's right before they went in or right after, but I think it was right before they went into the church.
Todd Huff: Which is one of the reasons why people are saying Don Lemon isn't just a journalist, he's a part of this, which we'll get to that in due course. But I want you to listen to how Nakima Levy Armstrong described the events at the time that they were happening. Versus what I'm going to play you here in a moment, which she has done a 180 on. She's the victim, of course. But anyway, here's Don Lemon with Nakima Levy Armstrong talking about storming this church, and she's going to explain what they're—what this is all about.
Nakima Levy Armstrong (Soundbite): Tell us why you're doing this. This is Operation Pull Up. More of a clandestine operation. We show up somewhere that is a key location. They don't expect us to come there, and then we disrupt business as usual. So that's what we're about to go do right now.
Todd Huff: This is video of them yelling in the service. ICE out is what they're yelling. Demanding justice for Renee Goode and letting them know that this will not stand. This is actually Don Lemon inside the church with Nakima Levy. So the first part was before they went in. The next clip, which again you can't see the video, this is them screaming ICE out during service. And now this part—they have occupied the church, taken over, I guess, the church? They think they have anyway. And she's explaining, she's telling Don Lemon, further elaborating on what they're trying to accomplish, get the message out, set the narrative, that sort of thing. And so I'll let her continue here.
Nakima Levy Armstrong (Soundbite): They cannot pretend to be a house of God while harboring someone who is directing ICE agents to wreak havoc upon our community and who killed Renee Goode, who almost killed a six-month-old baby. Enough is enough. I am a reverend on top of being a lawyer and an activist, so I come here in the power of the Almighty God.
Todd Huff: Give me a break. She's a reverend. She's coming there in the name of Almighty God. Listen, that is a major stretch. That is—you know—I can't get into that too much today because I have a direction I'm trying to take with things I promised I'd tell you. But God is a God of order. God has ordained, if you will, a government to do its job. Now, people can, of course, abuse government and establish systems that are not good, and that's happened throughout history. That's happening in real time around the world today. People are trying to use our government to take away people's liberty. This is a constant fight that we're having. It's what happens when the people who worship government, who love big government, who hate law and order, who hate the foundations of this country.
Todd Huff: Which, by the way, are built upon many truths that you will find established in Scripture. But she's out here saying that she's a reverend and also an activist and an attorney. Respectfully, I would say number one on your list, Ms. Armstrong, is that you're an activist. I can't speak too much for whatever your level of ministry is or whatever, but I do know this. The behavior that you exhibited at this church is not—don't be blaming that behavior on God, because that is not something that He ordains. Even—listen—there's even rules if there's a disagreement. If the Bible says, for example, if someone in the church is caught in sin, you're to go to him. Go to him and restore him gently.
Todd Huff: If he won't listen to you, you're supposed to take another witness or two. Say, “Hey, I want to come back to you. I don't want to make this a public thing.” They start with this charade. They start with the drama. They're drama-crats. God is a God of order. Worship—even the process of worshiping Him in His house—is one that's supposed to be of order. It's echoed throughout Scripture. Anyway, so this is what she was saying. I'm going to have to take a break and play what she's now saying. I have to take a break, but when I get back, I'm going to play what she's now saying when she's on CNN with Erin Burnett, which is night and day compared to what I just said there. And I've got some thoughts about Don Lemon as well, my friends, which we'll get to in the final segment of the program today. So wrap it up here, segment number two.
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Todd Huff: And yes, my friends, time out for me. Back in just a minute. All right, my friends, we're going to have to get to this quickly. It never ceases to amaze me how they try to gaslight us. So one more thing to get to before you get to the final clips and Don Lemon and so forth.
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Todd Huff: Okay, so that being said, let's get to perhaps the gaslighting event of the new year of 2026. We have, again, the same individual here, Nakima Levy Armstrong, who is the person that I played the clip from last segment who was being interviewed by Don Lemon. She's now gone on to CNN in the wake of all this, trying to get out there and shape the narrative and so forth. She's sitting down with Erin Burnett. I played for you the clip of what she told Don Lemon before they stormed the church and what she said when they were inside the church in real time. And that's what she said. You've got video of what they did, how they just stormed in and started screaming and chanting ICE out or whatever else they were chanting. You've seen the videos, my friends. She's hoping you don't or hoping that you're, well, too stupid, I guess, to see the truth. But this is what she's out there telling Erin Burnett and people who watch the deplorable CNN network.
Nakima Levy Armstrong (Soundbite): And I do want to correct something that was said in the beginning. We did not rush into that church. We actually went and sat down and participated in the service. And after the pastor prayed, that is when I stood up and asked him a question in response to his prayer. And then he responded to me. And then I proceeded to ask him about Pastor David Easterwood and how is it possible for him to serve as both a pastor and the director of ICE for Minnesota. And instead of responding to me, as soon as I said the name David Easterwood, the pastor said “shame, shame,” and that is when I led us in chants “justice for Renee Goode” and “hands up, don't shoot.”
Todd Huff: Now listen, the videos I've seen just show people coming in and just starting screaming and disrupting the church service. The interview that she did with Don Lemon, she says, “We're going to basically storm this church. We're going to disrupt the church service.” That's what she says. I mean, the headline of Don Lemon's video here—that may be someone else that's repurposed it—but it says, “Minneapolis activists disrupt church service over pastor's ICE role.” Anyway, so you may remember earlier this week I said that there's a good chance Don Lemon had better be prepared to be arrested. Well, Don Lemon was, I guess, targeted—not targeted in that aggressive way, but targeted as somebody after reviewing the evidence that the Department of Justice says this guy broke the law. And so we need to arrest him. A judge would not give them—would not give the Department of Justice—an arrest warrant for him. He wouldn't issue it because Don Lemon is a member of the media.
Todd Huff: Now, I want to say this. I'm a huge believer in protecting the rights of the media. That's critically important. The media should be shining the light on what's happening in our country. They should be doing their job, and they should be able to be free to do that. By the way, I'm a defender of James O'Keefe, too, for doing investigative journalism. They don't like that. They don't like the undercover stuff. I understand personally if you don't like being misled by somebody, I get that. But to be able to say that sort of stuff needs to be prohibited—if it helps us see what's happening behind the scenes, that's another thing altogether. But anyway, so having someone who can report and not be interfered with, that's an important thing.
Todd Huff: But surely we can also see that people can use quote-unquote journalism as a shield from law enforcement. Because if you watch the video—I mean, listen—Don Lemon was clearly involved at least in the interview process. You could make the case, or you could ask the question, possibly did he have direct involvement? He certainly doesn't seem to be an unbiased person in this mix. He seems to believe in parroting the narrative that's being repeated by the people that have just been arrested. It seems like he's on their side. A good journalist—you don't know whose quote-unquote side that they're on. But you shouldn't be able to use your journalistic credentials, if you will, to participate in a crime and not be held accountable either. That's an important balance that we've got to strike.
Todd Huff: I'm out of time, folks. Have a wonderful weekend. We'll talk with you again Monday. SDG.
