The Stack: Mike Lindell Runs for Governor While Indiana Republicans Fold
Powerful start to today’s episode: Todd sits down with Mike Lindell just after his announcement that he’s running for governor of Minnesota. Lindell explains why he believes Tim Walz has failed the state, how fraud and mismanagement have taken root, and why election integrity remains the foundational issue for restoring trust in government. They dig into voting machines, paper ballots, corruption, ICE enforcement, and the massive welfare fraud scandal unfolding in Minnesota.
After the interview, Todd shifts back to Indiana, breaking down the stunning collapse of the redistricting vote. Republicans didn’t just block the map—they did it decisively. Todd explains what comes next, the accountability efforts now underway, and why principled conservatives cannot afford to sit out the fight.
A packed episode with national and state implications, and a clear reminder: the work ahead requires clarity, courage, and persistence.
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Mike Lindell, founder of MyPillow, says he’s running for Minnesota governor in 2026
MyPillow CEO Mike Lindell files to run for Minnesota governor
Indiana Senate rejects redistricting bill in rare GOP departure
Senate Republicans reject Trump-backed redistricting map in Indiana
Indiana Republicans block new congressional map despite Trump pressure
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📝 Transcript: Mike Lindell Runs for Governor While Indiana Republicans Fold
The Todd Huff Show – December 12, 2025
Todd Huff: Attention, you're listening to the Todd Huff Show, America's home for conservative, not bitter talk and education. Be advised, the content of this program has been documented to prevent and even cure liberalism. And listening may cause you to lean to the right.
And now, coming to you from the Full Suite Wealth studios, here is your conservative, but not bitter host, Todd Huff. Well, that is right, my friends. You have tuned in to America's Home for Conservative, not bitter talk. I am your host, the one, the only, the ever so beloved Todd Huff. It's a pleasure to be here today.
Todd Huff: Yes, if you're in Indiana, you've been following what we've been talking about regarding our new state map that was voted down. We'll get to that a little bit later today, but I've got a treat for you here off the top of the program. We're gonna be talking with Mike Lindell, founder and CEO of MyPillow. He is running for governor in the state of Minnesota. I think this is fantastic. He'll be challenging Tim Walz, and we all got to know Tim Walz through the presidential campaign last year in Yikes. Lots of problems in Minnesota, lots of problems in America, my friends.
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Todd Huff: With that being said, and no further ado, I'd like to invite to the program, Mike Lindell, founder, CEO of MyPillow, and now candidate for governor in the great state of Minnesota. Mike, welcome to the program, sir. How are you today?
Mike Lindell: It's real good, thanks for having me on. I lost my voice a little bit yesterday announcing, making my announcement and talking all day, but I'm feeling pretty good.
Todd Huff: Well, we appreciate you joining us, and I will tell you that I think this is great, what you're doing, and I think we need more conservatives that are ready for the fight stepping into the mix. So just really quickly, I'm in Indiana.
Todd Huff: What are your immediate thoughts about what the Republicans in our state did yesterday voting against the redistricting in Indiana?
Mike Lindell: Well, it's horrific. You know, this has been always been my biggest surprise since I started since the 2020 election in January and all through the year 2021. I went around the country and tried to show, tried to get the paper ballots and count it and talk to all these Republicans and all these uni-parley Republicans. That was my biggest surprise.
Mike Lindell: I would get blocked by our own party that they're not, it's like, it's almost like a, you know, like they have a hidden agenda. It doesn't make sense. And when politicians make decisions that don't make sense where it would help people and help us, there's a hidden agenda. And it's just what is so nonsensical. It just, it's so disturbing. And now what they know that if we lose our country, it's gonna be because of Republicans like that.
Todd Huff: Yeah, it is disappointing. And do you think is it is it weakness? You know, I remember I started this program 10 years ago and I remember saying Republicans have two problems. One is they're either not conservative enough or number two. They're not strong enough. They're too weak. And that's what people love about Trump, by the way, is his willingness to fight and stand for what he believes.
Todd Huff: Is it weakness or is it just that they don't have the principle? Do they not really see the risk of what they're up against? What do you think the problem is?
Mike Lindell: Well, it's weakness, but it's also, I think there's a lot of the uniparty status quo power money. There's so many reasons because I've, like I say, I've probably met more politicians than anyone in the four year period ever. I mean, I went everywhere and I get, I just get surprised like decisions right over in Arkansas by Sarah Sanders, I could be the governor there.
Mike Lindell: I'm just disgusting things she's done over there and to block, you know, to block different things going through that we need, that we need as conservatives and you've got Kim Hammers over there, you've got Brad Rassenberger in Georgia, you've got Robin Voss in Wisconsin, but I think it's, you know, those are on the, those I think are different reasons.
Mike Lindell: I think they're, that's a deeper reason. I think there's a lot of corruption in our government and then, but then there's also the weaker ones. They don't want to do anything that's, oh, I'll just keep, I'll keep on the status quo and you know what, they're going to sit back and when they open their eyes and go, oh, what did I do? I was a part of this, a part of the losing her country.
Todd Huff: Yeah, I say on my program, in fact, I said this yesterday, everybody wants to be a politician when they can kiss babies and shake hands and go do the speaking events and get acknowledged and throw out candy at the parade. But we've got real problems here, Mike, and I know that's one of the reasons, I guess, underlying the reason that you're running.
Todd Huff: So tell us a little bit about what made you decide to take this step to run.
Mike Lindell: Well, I was gonna, I was very much gonna run in 2022, but I changed my mind right after the 2020 election because I had a bigger calling to go out and around this country and get rid of the, try to get rid of the voting machines and get to paper ballots and counting, which by the way, in Texas, we have great hope.
Mike Lindell: Dallas County went to paper ballots, no machines in the upcoming primary. So we're gonna have great movement there and a great prototype to show the country that it works.
Mike Lindell: But, you know, then, you know, so then just coming up here this summer, you know, I'm going, you know what? It might, you know, my pillow's been the most attacked company in history. And I've spent the last year there just trying to keep it going, our own government through the Operation Arctic Frost under Biden attacked my pillow. And then we have all these things going on in Minnesota.
Mike Lindell: And I'm going, this is, we got one chance to fix this in Minnesota. It's right now we're involved in it. Yes, everybody knows the biggest fraud in history of the United States when it comes to welfare fraud. But this goes back with the Somalians to the year 2000. We had problems back then. The Star Tribune did a big article back then on it.
Mike Lindell: And then in 2018, Jason Lewis, one of our politicians here in Minnesota, he brought forward all this fraud that was with daycare. And all they've done is just any welfare program switched to that, switched to that. They said it could be as high as 8 billion. But there's other things, other things in Minnesota I've lived here all my life or raised here.
Mike Lindell: And it's, we, I think we're at a tipping point here where we get Minnesota, we'll be going. It's, and all this getting uncovered right now. And I just don't, I don't trust anyone else to get the, to do it right. So I said, I'm going to do it, I'm going to run. I've got to, I've got to get in there.
Mike Lindell: I run, I run my pillow, like, and I built businesses from scratch with nothing, from just working hard. And then I've also been there when we've had lots of diversity and that's what Minnesota has right now. And you've got to go in round it. I've got great solutions for all the problems we have.
Mike Lindell: Obviously the biggest one is the fraud right now. But we've got other problems too, which a lot of big cities have. We got, you go down to Minneapolis and there's all the retailers and stuff. They're empty, you've got empty buildings. People at night don't go down there because it's out of fear.
Mike Lindell: But you've got stuff going on all of our country, or I mean, all of our state. And, and I've got the, I think I'm the only one that I know I am, I know the only one that I think you can get the job done right. These politicians again in there, they asked me yesterday when I announced running, they go, well, Mike's done it.
Mike Lindell: You're not a politician. What do you know about it? Well, I don't want to be a politician. I want to be a great leader. And, and they, so much in, in me being a governor, I don't think there's any communication. Let's just say that Jim Walts, our current governor, is in a sense that he didn't know anything about this fraud.
Mike Lindell: Then he's guilty of the biggest neglect in history because you're the governor, you're supposed to have communication. And then maybe see some deviations. There's $8 billion missing, maybe some way we should look into it. So, and then our attorney general is too busy attacking my Lindell recovery network. And he's in on this too.
Mike Lindell: And so is Elan Omar, everybody knows that. But, and you know, the, I just think I'm the only one that can get it done and get it done right.
Todd Huff: Well, I know you've been working hard here, and believe me, Mike, I've had my voice sit before from all the talking I do, so we appreciate the fight and all that you're doing there. So let's talk a little bit about what happened.
Todd Huff: You referred to the paper ballots and the fighting that you've done for election integrity. I don't want to, you know, that's a whole topic that we could talk about for hours. But what were the biggest, I guess, takeaways from you? When you looked into this, when you dug into this, when you started looking at just what the problems are, I mean, what are the biggest takeaways that Americans should know about just the way that our elections are run and some ways that we can maybe make that better?
Mike Lindell: Right? Well, 132 countries have banned electronic voting machines. Over 100 countries have banned early voting and mail-in voting. We have the worst election platforms in the history of the world. There's nothing worse.
Mike Lindell: And so we need, we need to get rid of them. It doesn't matter the brand, they need to go. And we're well on our way. We've got, like I said, I just said, there's five counties in Texas that have voted out the machines to get to paper ballots. We've had people in all 50 states, I lead that. It's called the cause of America.
Mike Lindell: We have over 300,000 people on the ground in every county in the country. And they, we've been working hard for four and a half, five years to get as many counties to go to paper ballots and count it. And that's, don't be confused that it's hand, that it's hand marked paper ballots. Everyone says, well, we have paper ballots, Mike. We have hand marked paper ballots.
Mike Lindell: Well, it goes into a tabulator, these machines, these computers. And what I found right away was, you know, when the 2020 election came along, I started, right away started getting the voter rolls and looking into who voted and where they voted from and all this. And, and I'll just do an example.
Mike Lindell: Let's say it was 6,000 people in Wisconsin that voted, that didn't live there. And I'm going, okay, it doesn't make sense that you could round up, say, hey, everybody who wants to go commit a crime and jump into Wisconsin and vote for Biden.
Mike Lindell: And then I got, and then as time rolled on, you know, I bought every bill on the unit roll in the United States. And then one of my first places was Alabama. And I went down there and got a Republican named John Merrill, Secretary of State Republic. And anyway, I said, John, he charged me 40,000 for his voter rolls.
Mike Lindell: And I said, John, look at here, you have 4,662 people that voted in Alabama, over 110 years old. And he looked at me and he says, well, Mike, we live pretty good here in Alabama. And I'm going, you know, John, John, that's not funny.
Mike Lindell: I mean, this, this was these uni-party blockers everywhere, but we've got great hope. The president, it's his number one concern. I talked to him all the time. And, and he is, he's working from the top down. He knows we need to get to secure elections with paper ballots and count in.
Mike Lindell: He's put out executive orders, but there's more coming and a lot more coming in the next four weeks. The biggest thing is we've got to spread the word when he does put out these announcements and orders that the states need to follow through.
Todd Huff: Absolutely. I'm with Mike Lindell, founder and CEO of MyPillow. He's now running for governor of Minnesota. He'll be facing Tim Walz.
Todd Huff: And Mike, I've talked a little bit. You mentioned the fraud with the Somali immigrants and all that. We talked about that briefly on our program here, but not a lot. So could you give our listeners just a quick summary of what this problem really is in the state of Minnesota?
Mike Lindell: Yeah, well, there was, in Minnesota, we have more Somalians outside of Somalia, any place in the world. I believe it's over 100, maybe 125,000 that were brought here. And it's, and Kristi Noem said the other day that it looks like about 75% of overstating their visa might be here illegally.
Mike Lindell: But the biggest thing was, they started in 2018, like I said, it was daycare fraud then, where they had said they signed up and said they were taking care of people, kids, and they weren't. And then with the virus, this is where they stole most of the money they would set up food, let's say restaurants for food to feed people in need, and then they never fed anybody.
Mike Lindell: And I suppose that's, you know, it's become, I think they're up to 88 charge now, and they say it could be between 1 million and $8 billion with a B. So you look at this in Minnesota, how we feel not just all the money they stole from the taxpayers. Remember at the federal and state level, they stole it from everyone in the country.
Mike Lindell: But what about the people that really needed that money that it was allocated for, that needed the food and needed the help? And this also goes to when you talk about illegals. I was in Chicago and last year at the Democrat Convention, I went there and kind of snuck in.
Mike Lindell: But we went to the inner city and the number one thing that they were saying, they were voting for Donald Trump, even though a lot of them didn't like him was because the illegals had taken all their resources, including their treatment centers, they were filled and the healthcare centers.
Mike Lindell: But Minnesota, and this, and by the way, in Minnesota, Elon Omar, this is like almost like a tribe of, from Somalia, it's a state tribe, I've heard that too, where she is, they say she married her brother illegally. There's a lot of crimes, I believe she's committed. It's been, the news has protected her and others for years now.
Mike Lindell: But this goes, I think, waltzes in on this. That's what I think. I don't know how you could not be, and even Keith Ellison, our Attorney General. So this is the, like Stephen Miller called it the biggest welfare crime in the history of the United States. It's not even close. And he said they're gonna be coming out with all kinds of, I hope, indictments and charges and get these people put in prison that committed the crimes, and then get their ship and everyone else back that's not supposed to be here.
Todd Huff: Now, I've seen ICE in Minnesota, in Minneapolis, I'm sure other areas as well, and I know that leadership there, current political leadership, which the mayor of Minnesota, or excuse me, the mayor of Minneapolis, and of course the governor there, Tim Walz, they do pretty much everything they can to prevent ICE from doing its job.
Todd Huff: What would a Lindell governorship, what would that look like in partnerships, a partnership with something like ICE, what would that look like?
Mike Lindell: Well, obviously, I would be welcome them just like you guys, even the D.C., the Washington D.C. mayor, a Democrat, she even welcome nice and put it out publicly.
Mike Lindell: You've got to work with your federal government. This is what what Walsh does here in the mayor of Minneapolis is they've done so many nonsensical things like they let Minneapolis burn to the ground in the summer of 2020. And then they, when we had Thanksgiving that year, we were only allowed to eat people in our house or your neighbor could turn you in, you would do 90 days in jail.
Mike Lindell: They had five things set up. You got 12 people for Christmas. I mean, these guys have a very hidden, evil agenda. That's all I can say. The stuff they do doesn't help anybody except for themselves. I don't even know how it helps them there. It's it's really sad.
Mike Lindell: And it's really, you know, this is I just think it's great that it's all getting revealed and hopefully that they end up in prison too, if they've done it, if they get a part of this.
Todd Huff: You know, I had not been to your state of Minnesota until last summer. My, we've got family that lives up there just, uh, just outside of, of Mankato.
Todd Huff: And, um, you know, it's, I'm in the Midwest and it's got a lot of the same flavor as Indiana, as far as, you know, again, I didn't travel the whole state, but just from the people I spoke with and, you know, it's, it's interesting to me how a state like Minnesota can, can elect a guy like Tim walls.
Todd Huff: What's, what's going on there to begin with Mike, to where your state has elected people like, uh, mayor fryer, uh, governor walls there, uh, to begin with what, what's fueling that.
Mike Lindell: Well, the mayor downtown, I mean, realize that Somalians, I think, are now one fourth of the population in Annapu County and Minneapolis. So they're, and I think they might've been a part of that. But the other thing here in Minnesota is election crime.
Mike Lindell: I mean, it's just rampant, just like every state. I mean, every state, and hopefully that this, all the things going on will uncover all this too. You have to have secure elections. You have to have secure elections, but also like in Minnesota here, I think we went to California, Colorado, and then Minnesota.
Mike Lindell: We get so many, the downtown these, and it's almost turning like socialists now instead of just to your liberal. But it, I mean, that's part of it, but how you get a, it's all about too, about marketing too. And I think, people are seeing through that now. Used to be, you know, you go back just a few years and everybody believed the press.
Mike Lindell: So whoever had the most money in their run could just put out ads after ads, and whoever spent the most in, and I got tired of hearing that too over the last four years. Well, how much money did that person raise? He needs this money too much money to win. Those numbers went out the window.
Mike Lindell: They're gone, those things are gone because we have too many social media sites now, too many podcasts. Other people are getting their information from more than just watching Fox News and CNN and your local ABC, CBS, and NBC. So I think, you know, a lot of it was that, but if I was to say if Minnesota had a fair election, exactly fair, I'd say that we, it would turn red.
Mike Lindell: We've been the only state that's been red since 19, or blue since 1972. But I just think, and I think this is gonna open people's eyes to a lot of the, you know, you see what's going on in New York now, what's gonna happen there. You know, I think they're gonna, they'll learn the hard way like California has with many, many cities there.
Mike Lindell: You know, I don't know where that, all that path has taken us with people that get brought up and brainwashed, you know, and they, I think maybe with, like I say, with more media sites now, maybe there won't be as much of that, but we'll have to see.
Todd Huff: Well, if I want to shift gears here really quickly, I just have a minute and a half or so. But I know that your company, MyPillow, has been the focus of lots of attacks. You've dealt with you've dealt with so many things. I can't even imagine.
Todd Huff: And I applaud you for your tenacity and strength, the courage to fight through this. And I'm asking you're not complaining. Just tell the listeners I've got about 90 seconds that I want to also tell folks that we're partner with you. They can go to MyPillow.com, use promo code Todd, and get discounts on all sorts of products on your site.
Todd Huff: So, but give them just a quick synopsis of what you've had to deal with here in the next, I've got 60 seconds, Mike. What's happening?
Mike Lindell: Yeah, we've been de-banked, that's called Operation Arctic Frost by Biden's government back to 22, all the way up to present, still carry over, but we were de-banked at four banks. Our merchant server was canceled on us. American Express canceled us, PayPal. You go to, they went to our vendors.
Mike Lindell: This is our own government, FBI and DOJ, went to our vendors and said, don't do business with my pillow, or we're gonna de-make you. They went to my landlords. I mean, it was, I don't know what keeps happening, but it was all an attack on, not just my pillow and myself, but you know, my FBI took my phone in a drive-through one year, but there was 92 other people, including nine centers, and so on the news that you guys check it out, but we, and this also, and then my pillow was also attacked by the, with lawfare with the voting machines companies that came after just me, but they came after my employee-owned company, which had nothing to do with what their employee, that I was out there doing to help the country.
Mike Lindell: So, but we've gotten through by the grace of God and people out there supporting us. So you guys use that promo code, Todd. You're gonna get free shipping on your entire order for Christmas here, and you're gonna get the best specials you'll ever see. So many USMA products that we make right here, and they are the best products ever, and we're gonna do that today for everybody, so promo code.
Todd Huff: Well, Mike, I appreciate what you're doing. I appreciate you running for governor. Good luck there.
Todd Huff: If there's anything else we can do to help you, we'd love to do that. That's Mike Lindell, founder, CEO of MyPillow, running for governor in the great state of Minnesota. Folks, I gotta take a timeout. You're listening here to Conservative Not Better Talk. I'm your host, Todd Huff, back in just a minute.
Todd Huff: Welcome back, my friends. I hope you enjoyed that conversation I had with Mike Lindell from my pillow. He's running for governor of the state of Minnesota against Tim Walls. He's just announced that here, I think yesterday, actually.
Todd Huff: We've been a partner of theirs for a good while now. And. I had my contact there. And. I had talked about having Mike on the program before, and. She said gave me some details, and once he made the announcement, he was going to come on. Here and share that with you. So I hope you enjoyed that, even though that's. Again. We've talked a lot about Indiana these past few weeks. We talked about Minnesota again. What we've got here is this great republic where there are similar battles being fought all across.
Todd Huff: The country. Similar battles. It's, of course, different in every state, but there certainly are similarities. There certainly are concerns about fraud, waste, fraud and abuse, about what's happening with our election roles, how people are allowed to.
Todd Huff: Vote, the weaponization of the government against political enemies, but also against. Also against businesses like Mike was sharing there at the end. He wasn't complaining by the way. I was asking him to tell what he's been up against, what he's had.
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Todd Huff: Going to talk about what happened in Indiana yesterday. Now, if you listened yesterday. You would have heard me say. I thought it was 50 50. And I did. I thought it was 50 50, but. It also doesn't surprise me.
Todd Huff: That. Republicans lost as much. As. They. 've lost by as many votes as they did. They actually lost in the senate. 31 to 19, I thought. It was going to be if we didn't win. If we didn't win this. Vote. I thought it was going to be something like 27, 23.
Todd Huff: Or 26. 24 even. That's what I thought. Not 31. 19. So it is what it is. We lost this fight and. I told you yesterday. I told you yesterday that if we did lose this fight, I said it. In the program. I remember distinctively. I said, there's going to be some trash talkers. Because this is how they are. I'm telling you, I know these folks like the back of my hand.
Todd Huff: I wish sometimes I didn't, because. It means that you have to understand. Some. Well, some just really sometimes depraved minds, my friends. And so I had them. A few of them coming after me, a few of them coming back to me on old posts. That I had made.
Todd Huff: Like my open letter to my senator Rod Bray, state senator, who, by the way, never responded to me. And may it be known today. May it be known today that. I am engaged in doing whatever I can to make sure.
Todd Huff: His senate seat here in my district. District 37 in Indiana. If you're in that district, by the way, if you're in that district or if you're a hoosier, anywhere and you want to be a part. It's one thing to come on here to talk about it, folks. I'm not an activist, but I'm a pragmatist.
Todd Huff: I want to see this state move in the right direction. I've already been communicating with the folks. At turning point action. Brett Galashesky, who came on the program last week. The one who invited me to speak.
Todd Huff: At the statehouse. We've already been in communication. They've already posted jobs. For? I don't know the title. He sent it to me. I don't have. It in front. Maybe I do here, but. They've posted jobs.
Todd Huff: For? What is it here? We've got. What are they calling them? Work field representatives in Warsaw, Indiana Granger, Indiana Terrahoad, Indiana Crown Point and Cheryville Indiana. Turning point. Well, TP action careers, if you want to see the positions they're hiring. There.
Todd Huff: So they're serious about. I've already been in communication with them, and I think my message to him was, hey, Brett, I'm here to hold these rhinos accountable. He said, good. Let's do it. So there's going to be action immediately. And so if you want to be a part of it. If you want to be a part of it, just send me a note. Just put Indiana in the subject line or whatever. Just a short note about the maps, about fighting to replace these rhinos. We're going to partner with them. I don't know what this. Is going to look like.
Todd Huff: But I will tell you that. We are serious about this. And. We're not going away. I told Rod Bray. I told Rod Bray. Well, of course he'd never respond to me. So I don't know if he got the message. But.
Todd Huff: I told them that. We are going to hold folks accountable. I don't mean it as a threat. I'm just simply saying that. We are their constituents, and they've made this decision. I told you that all along. This is what I said. I said that they could vote. It's their prerogative. They voted against it. It's a political process, and I said from the consequences, the results of their vote will have consequences.
Todd Huff: And if they would have voted for it, there would be people trying to vote them out and if they vote against it, there are going to be people like me. And like many of you who are going to try to get them voted out, but this is a practical moment in time.
Todd Huff: This is where we can move from just academically understanding this stuff. And having our own opinions to actually trying to move the needle. Folks, we're in the middle of a cold civil war. We've got a lot of different enemies. Political enemies. I don't mean mortal enemies, but political enemies. Now, there are people who are diametrically opposed to our worldview, who've been pushing a godless.
Todd Huff: Radically left agenda down our throats for a long time, those folks. Are the greatest domestic threat that we have. They weaken America. They open up opportunities for our children's minds to be poisoned. They threaten us by putting heavy financial burdens and heavy amounts of taxation on us, I can go on and on through.
Todd Huff: That list. But this issue was political, and now we're engaging in a political battle, and I will be. I will be out there. And I hope you will join me in trying to hold these. Folks. Accountable. And that's what we're going to do. So just send an email to todd@toddhubshow.com. just put Indiana in that subject line, if that's something that you're interested in, but we're going to be doing.
Todd Huff: A lot with that. Maybe partnering in some ways with turning point. Action may look at. I don't know exactly what heritage action is doing, but we will. Believe me, there will be some coordination here and some other folks involved, maybe even.
Todd Huff: There's other individuals who've mentioned about doing things here in the state as well. And so if you're interested in that, please send the email. Todd@toddhefshow.com just put indiana or something like that in the subject line and I'll get you put to that, into that group, and we'll get moving on that here.
Todd Huff: In due course. Okay. I want to tell you just one of the examples, I guess. One of the examples of some trash talking I was subjected to yesterday, which entertained me because again, I told you that this was coming. You knew that it was coming. You know that. That's how these people act. And behave. It's. It's who they are. I told you that if we.
Todd Huff: Would have won. I wouldn't have been taunting other people. But. It's okay. To me if they want to engage this week or this way. But it goes to show just how. Often pathetic these folks can be. So I'm trying to find. Here it is. Here it is. I posted my open.
Todd Huff: Letter to Rod Bray. So there's a guy immediately after the vote yesterday that came on. And said, Well, he came to the page and said, well, that didn't age well. And then I basically responded. By saying I told my listeners today that there would be trash talkers if we lost the vote. Predictably, you're here. Alan. How did this not age well? Because they didn't. Agree with me because the site I'm on lost the vote. That's a wild way to live your life.
Todd Huff: I don't need a majority approval to validate my opinions. That's why that's what logical thinking and debate is for. But I understand some need validation, and I suppose you have what you need tonight. Conservative, not bitter. And then there's Matthew. Say that I'm bitter. Oh, Matthew. But they came out. I had others. I'd been communicating elsewhere, and some of them were.
Todd Huff: Dropping some things I can't even read on here. It's amazing to me that that's the starting point, my friends, to drop all sorts of expletives and. To call people stupid. It's very effective and persuasive. So, anyway. Disappointing. But again, this is just all part of the fight. As I've said before, this is not going away. My friends, we've got to engage in this fight and be prepared.
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Todd Huff: Welcome back, my friends. I was looking for. The other comment that I got on social media, I tell you, these people, these people who by the way have the audacity to call little old me bitter? My friends, I tell you. This is.
Todd Huff: Pretty interesting to me to watch people's reaction. I remember after the 2020 election, Well, I got to know this individual. She was a liberal Democrat, but we were friends and had a good relationship, whatever.
Todd Huff: And I remember. When Biden won or won the election in 2020. As soon as she. As soon as they won. She sended me text messages, trash talking. We're going to have a woman suck on that. I don't know exactly what. It was, but it was something like that.
Todd Huff: We're going to have a first female president. As though that was my objection to a Biden Kamala ticket. But anyway. Again. For some people hear me say this. I say a lot of words in a show every day, my friends.
Todd Huff: And I certainly want all of them to hit. But there are some things that I really want people to understand. For the radical left. I ain't telling you. Government is their God. To worship something means.
Todd Huff: To consider. It ultimately worthy. It's the thing that we put priority on over all of our lives. This is something. That the reason why we all worship something. And the left, I'm telling you, worships. God and they worship.
Todd Huff: Power. And so when you threaten that, I mean, they are ready to go. I mean, it's, like a religious war for them. So here's a guy on Facebook that said, In response to a comment I had made somewhere. His name is Richard.
Todd Huff: He says. Stay your stupid aws out of Indiana. If you got to cheat, you're not a true Christian, are you? No punctuation. I mean, it's hard to read these comments. It's like there's no punctuation, there's misspelling.
Todd Huff: I don't know where the beginning and the end of the sentences. I don't. Think he does either. I know he doesn't. But. This is how people respond. That's the opening. Response. Someone else who? Again, they don't respond to my open letter until after the votes. Finalized.
Todd Huff: Named Ken says bye. We don't have enough votes. That's what Rod Bray said. Initially, I think he meant that not enough people would vote for it because it sucks and it's unnecessary unless. You just.
Todd Huff: I don't even know what to say about this. I can't even edit this in real time to read it. He uses the word suck and refers to something about Trump. You engage in that activity so hard? It keeps keeping the oxygen from your brain. Sit back and breathe and might clear things up, if you notice, like, these are the responses I get and that doesn't truly there was a time, I think, when I first started, I really didn't want to have that.
Todd Huff: I really didn't want to have that. I thought, look. I'm not going to give them any unnecessary fuel. For this blind rage. But folks, it doesn't matter. They disagree with you. You're stupid. That's the goal. Is that how I talk to people? Is that how you talk? To people. You try to reason with them. At some point when there's no reason, you realize that.
Todd Huff: They might. It's evident that they've handed themselves over or given themselves over God's. Giving themselves over to a depraved mind. Again, this is a political issue here. This one. 's not good and bad, right and wrong.
Todd Huff: I think that having redrawn those maps, that would have given Indiana an advantage to fight. To better fight against the evil when it comes to those issues. But again, people can disagree with me. I'm telling you, I haven't had a person explain to me why they don't. Want to.
Todd Huff: They'll say it needs to be fair. And I say, okay, I agree what's fair and they can't tell me. Why are one set of lines fair and another set of lines unfair? Why does Indiana get or Indianapolis. Get one solid district and not multiple. Who's to say that they can't? Have that.
Todd Huff: Explain that to me. Explain to me how this is something that's unconstitutional or explain to me how it's cheating. It's done in accordance with the law. Right. They just didn't want it. And listen, I understand that, but don't pretend like I'm stupid or think that I'm stupid because you disagree.
Todd Huff: It's not. How you persuade people. I'll tell you that anyway. It's a sad day in a way. But listen, this fight, whether we won or not. This fight was going to have to continue. Friends.
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Todd Huff: All right, friends, I don't have a lot of time left. In conclusion. I'm still. In fact, I invited someone else. There are reasonable people that engage with me. And who say, for example, Rod Bray is not a rhino. I disagree. I've given reasons why they don't. Give reasons why not.
Todd Huff: They just say he's not and that I'm wrong. If it goes on for too long. They might say that I'm stupid. Fortunately, I don't. Really put much value. There's an old saying that says, don't take criticism. From people you wouldn't take advice from. That's really.
Todd Huff: Me. As I've grown this program. I care about what you think. I care about what reasonable people think. Not in the sense that. It'll persuade me. Unless I'm truly persuaded. But I certainly respect people who have. Different opinions.
Todd Huff: I'm not going to treat them like they treat me. And people like us oftentimes. But we have to understand this is what this is about. This is for all the marvels, my friends. This is for control. Political power here in this. Country. We had better be serious about taking control and fighting these folks in every way possible, but I got to go. SDG.
